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Farming and ranching. Case closed. Also, the rural population has quite a different culture than what you are used to. They don't _crave_ internet. Some of the

Farming and ranching. Case closed. Also, the rural population has quite a different culture than what you are used to. They don't _crave_ internet. Some of them likely ask the same thing about your culture. Why do you like living so close to each other? Everything is so fast and overwhelming.

EliRivers 9y ago
"Farming and ranching. Case closed." Is it? Are you a farmer or rancher? Why's it necessary to live so remotely? Is it not possible for a town to support farming and ranching? Is it necessary for everyone involved to live so remotely? Given the huge areas involved, living on the farm/ranch makes you local to one small part of it but still remote from all the rest, so why the need to live there? "Why do you like living so close to each other?" I don't, but it's the cost of having the things I do want. I want fast, reliable, cheap internet. I want my other utilities to be reliable as well. I want to be able to walk ten minutes to a mainline train station - it gives me a lot of opportunities very easily, needing nothing more than train fare. The density of people creates a lot of other opportunities; things that are wildly uneconomical in low-density communities become viable. Range of jobs, range of businesses for me to patronise, leisure opportunities. It's really about all those opportunities, and the people that make them. When I want to learn something, I just find a local class. If there isn't a local class, it's an hour from my door on foot and by train to central London (and I don't even live in a county adjacent to London), and there the opportunities increase by another order of magnitude. We don't (necessarily) like living close to each other; we like all the opportunities that are created by that - economic and self-development - and we like the many things that become economical in doing so (cheap, reliable utilities and infrastructure and niche businesses and all the rest that I mentioned above).
- Aloha 9y ago
  Both Farming and Ranching require a sizable amount of land to be viable. It's much more viable to live on the land you farm (or ranch on), than it is to live in town. Beyond that, cities create higher land values that tend to make farming or ranching non-viable. That said, even rural towns are very underserved in the US.
protomyth 9y ago
My usage stats on our internet would disagree. Of course I’ve visited the college on weekends and found folks parked in the parking lot using the school’s wifi. I figure it’s a public service.
Broken_Hippo 9y ago
They don't _crave_ internet. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but this is simply not my experience. I'm pretty sure that minimally, the teenagers and young adults crave it. Especially if they've went to college and gotten some sort of agricultural degree, where they had internet.
- thaumasiotes 9y ago
  > Especially if they've went to college I've been noticing a fair amount of "have went" on Youtube lately. Would you say "have taken" or "have took"? What about "was taken" vs "was took"?
  - Broken_Hippo 9y ago
    I always say taken when using another verb (insert a technical grammar name here, probably a participle or something) Took stands on its own. For example: I have taken the test and Bob took the test Thursday. It could also have something to do with regional dialects, I'm not entirely certain.

EliRivers 9y ago

"Farming and ranching. Case closed." Is it? Are you a farmer or rancher? Why's it necessary to live so remotely? Is it not possible for a town to support farming and ranching? Is it necessary for everyone involved to live so remotely? Given the huge areas involved, living on the farm/ranch makes you local to one small part of it but still remote from all the rest, so why the need to live there? "Why do you like living so close to each other?" I don't, but it's the cost of having the things I do want. I want fast, reliable, cheap internet. I want my other utilities to be reliable as well. I want to be able to walk ten minutes to a mainline train station - it gives me a lot of opportunities very easily, needing nothing more than train fare. The density of people creates a lot of other opportunities; things that are wildly uneconomical in low-density communities become viable. Range of jobs, range of businesses for me to patronise, leisure opportunities. It's really about all those opportunities, and the people that make them. When I want to learn something, I just find a local class. If there isn't a local class, it's an hour from my door on foot and by train to central London (and I don't even live in a county adjacent to London), and there the opportunities increase by another order of magnitude. We don't (necessarily) like living close to each other; we like all the opportunities that are created by that - economic and self-development - and we like the many things that become economical in doing so (cheap, reliable utilities and infrastructure and niche businesses and all the rest that I mentioned above).

Aloha 9y ago
Both Farming and Ranching require a sizable amount of land to be viable. It's much more viable to live on the land you farm (or ranch on), than it is to live in town. Beyond that, cities create higher land values that tend to make farming or ranching non-viable. That said, even rural towns are very underserved in the US.

protomyth 9y ago

My usage stats on our internet would disagree. Of course I’ve visited the college on weekends and found folks parked in the parking lot using the school’s wifi. I figure it’s a public service.

Broken_Hippo 9y ago

They don't _crave_ internet. I'm not sure where you get your information from, but this is simply not my experience. I'm pretty sure that minimally, the teenagers and young adults crave it. Especially if they've went to college and gotten some sort of agricultural degree, where they had internet.

thaumasiotes 9y ago
> Especially if they've went to college I've been noticing a fair amount of "have went" on Youtube lately. Would you say "have taken" or "have took"? What about "was taken" vs "was took"?
- Broken_Hippo 9y ago
  I always say taken when using another verb (insert a technical grammar name here, probably a participle or something) Took stands on its own. For example: I have taken the test and Bob took the test Thursday. It could also have something to do with regional dialects, I'm not entirely certain.