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There's an email + password login right below the Facebook login. But yes, a demo seems like a good idea, if it is not too hard.
by fiatjaf 9y ago
There's an email + password login right below the Facebook login.
But yes, a demo seems like a good idea, if it is not too hard.
- Jenkam 9y agoI don't understand what you mean. What demo?
- brudgers 9y agoProviding an email address is not part of my 'timeline problem' I am trying to solve. Not providing an email address (or Facebook login) is part of another problem that I have been trying to solve for years. That's not to say that providing an email address or a Facebook login is always too high a price. But here there is no significant benefit to providing it and a reasonable probability of detriment based on my experience. Going further, there is no functional reason for requiring a login. Because the login sits in front of all the value on my end and there's not really anything good that can come from providing that information, I am inclined to assign a higher probability to their being a bad outcome. To be clear, I am writing all this in the context of providing "Show HN" feedback. The login seems like clicking a checkbox on the checklist of "startup best practices" sitting in Github repository. Collecting emails and Facebook logins is easier than listening to users. Emails and Facebook provide ways of telling rather than listening.
- fiatjaf 9y agoI think I understand what you're saying, but have you considered that user accounts exist not only for putting email addresses in a mailing list? Anyway, what would you suggest?
- brudgers 9y agoMy suggestion is to ignore login until there is a functional reason. Today, people landing on the page is pure gold. The important functional information is how they use the product. Sure, user accounts can exist for many reasons. Right now, there is no evidence that for this site right now the reasons are for my benefit. That's not to say in the wider world there are not people who would benefit from persistent identity in regard to a timeline making site. It is even possible that I might benefit from establishing a persistent identity, but there's no statement of a value proposition as to why nor do the possible reasons seem more likely than the idea that persistent identity is not for my benefit, and hence Occam's razor. Perhaps the reason is to use Facebook/email is to build Hacker News for timelines. Great, that's functional..once there is a social space, not now. If the login is to pitch an investor by showing uniques traction, it's non-functional.
- Jenkam 9y agoYou can create a timeline without log it but if you want to save it, so..
- brudgers 9y agoWhat I am most likely to want is just a gif/png/jpeg/svg that I can use elsewhere. I mean it looks like a great tool for creating timelines, but creating timelines doesn't seem like an end in itself.
- fiatjaf 9y agoGo build your own timeline creator.
- brudgers 9y agoSeems like a substantially greater cost than an email address and we have discussed how I feel about that.
- detaro 9y agoHow about we let people leave (friendly phrased) feedback, even if you disagree with it? The project creator is free to think about it what they want and ignore it if it doesn't match their plans, they don't need you telling people to go away.
- fiatjaf 9y agoRight, I understand. And I partially agree.