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Recipes are not copyrightable, and I'd argue that it's actually beneficial to all of us to exchange recipes freely and allow for commercial reuse. Food is an im
by mstaoru 9y ago
Recipes are not copyrightable, and I'd argue that it's actually beneficial to all of us to exchange recipes freely and allow for commercial reuse. Food is an important and quantifiable part of our lives, and improving it is a collective effort. As I support scientific papers "theft" by Scihub, in the same way I support Buzzfeed propagating good food.
- maxerickson 9y agoThat doesn't answer the charge of plagiarism.
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- rblatz 9y agoIt's videos of people making food on Facebook. It's not an academic article. No one cares, it isn't actionable.
- maxerickson 9y agoPlenty of olds have quaint ideas about giving credit where credit is due.
- sanj 9y agoIt is a video of a cartoon mouse named "Mickey" that only kids watch. It's not an academic article. No one cares, it isn't actionable.
- replicatorblog 9y agoCorrect, that is a copyright violation. Based on the links above Tasty's videos are neither plagiarism, which is an offense in academia, but not commerce, nor Copyright, the commercial equivalent, which does not protect recipes.
- maxerickson 9y agoPlagiarism has formal consequences in academia. Taking credit for the work of others in any context is still plagiarism.
- burkaman 9y agoBut do you understand that it's ethically wrong, regardless of whether or not it's illegal or formally defined? At a minimum, it's rude to copy someone's work without thanking them. You shouldn't need a higher authority to tell you this is wrong.
- zaroth 9y agoI'm not sure it's ethically wrong to take something in the public domain which holds no license or copyright whatsoever, and use it without attribution. If snippets of the video were direct cuts from another show, that's a different story. But making a dish yourself and filming it is your own creation, I don't see why you have to thank anyone for it.
- burkaman 9y agoIt is. It's benefiting from someone else's work without thanking them. This is basic elementary school ethics. It's equivalent to performing a symphony, but not mentioning the music was written by Beethoven. Not illegal, but wrong, even if you don't explicitly claim it's your own work.
- zaroth 9y agoNo, it's not. A symphony can be copyrighted. It's the same as calculating force equals mass times acceleration, without thanking Newton every time. That's an example (natural law) which is always and immediately public domain, the same as recipes.
- burkaman 9y agoBut Beethoven symphonies are not copyrighted, they've been in the public domain for centuries. Is it ok if you use Beethoven? f=ma is an interesting example. I still think you should mention that it's Newton's Second Law if you're teaching it, and I doubt there's a textbook out there that doesn't. If Newton had discovered this law last year and you wrote a book about it without mentioning him, that would be deeply unethical.
- enraged_camel 9y agoI think outside of formal settings and in everyday life, it is common courtesy to give credit to people if you use their work or reference their ideas.
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- eridius 9y agoProviding proper attribution does not in any way prevent you from exchanging recipes freely.
- mstaoru 9y agoWell, as Sci-hub doesn't push links to Elsevier in every paper they obtain, you shouldn't expect BuzzFeed attributing food blogs. However, I do not defend BuzzFeed's actions, and it would probably be better off for everyone if they contacted SeriousEats up front for a bit of exclusive content. But as an amateur chef and nutrition enthusiast, I'm all happy when interesting recipes get pushed beyond their original websites even in this sloppy manner.
- eridius 9y agoI just gotta say, that's a really weird analogy to make.
- Veratyr 9y agoThe ingredient list isn't copyrightable but other parts of the recipe (like images or explanations of how/why to do things) are: https://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html https://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html Is BuzzFeed copying those parts or replacing them with its own? Also, related, it appears you can patent a recipe: https://www.uspto.gov/custom-page/inventors-eye-advice-1 https://www.uspto.gov/custom-page/inventors-eye-advice-1, though it wouldn't help much here.