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Show HN: Time.Graphics – flexible timeline

16 points by Jenkam 9y ago

fiatjaf 9y ago
I have no words for how amazing this is. Also, "percentage" is written with a C.
- Jenkam 9y ago
  Thanks. Okay, we gonna fix it this week.
- Jenkam 9y ago
  Sorry, it's good.) perCentage
fiatjaf 9y ago
It says it downloads stuff (JSON, CSV etc). If I want it to render a chart with some data generated in a server, would that be possible? I don't see how.
- Jenkam 9y ago
  Yes. You can display any statistic information from you website or database by implementing api: You data should look like (per row): date, value ... ...
mtmail 9y ago
Small issue: On my 27" monitor full-screen the hamburger menu is shown on the top right, thus hiding the links to the excellent https://time.graphics/popular/ https://time.graphics/popular/ for example. Tested in Firefox and Google Chrome.
- Jenkam 9y ago
  We will check this asap, thank you.
brudgers 9y ago
[random advice from the internet] I think the idea is interesting and the execution seems well done. Because, I don't want to log in with Facebook to save, I can't see the end result and ultimately have no idea whether or not it is actually any good. So I will probably never use it, and almost certainly never recommend it (since I have no idea if at the end of the road Time.graphics is actually any good. From a business standpoint: What is the business value of a visitor's Facebook login? What is the business value of providing accurate knowledge of the *final* product to a visitor? What business problem does obtaining a visitor's Facebook login directly solve right now, here in the context of a 'Show HN'? Years ago I tried selling software and my strategy was simple. I made a free demo version that showed what could be done and provided a lousy high level functional experience (i.e. it could not be used for actual work) so that people would buy it. I don't think people tend to buy software that leaves them with a bad taste in their mouth. I don't think time spent building tooling that makes the demo lousy is time well spent. At any size it makes sense to understand potential users. At a certain size it probably makes sense to use Facebook as a tool to aggregate data. When there are only a couple of hundred or ten or one, then it is better view them individually. Ask them, "Am I solving your problem?" Good luck.
- fiatjaf 9y ago
  There's an email + password login right below the Facebook login. But yes, a demo seems like a good idea, if it is not too hard.
  - Jenkam 9y ago
    I don't understand what you mean. What demo?
  - brudgers 9y ago
    Providing an email address is not part of my 'timeline problem' I am trying to solve. Not providing an email address (or Facebook login) is part of another problem that I have been trying to solve for years. That's not to say that providing an email address or a Facebook login is always too high a price. But here there is no significant benefit to providing it and a reasonable probability of detriment based on my experience. Going further, there is no functional reason for requiring a login. Because the login sits in front of all the value on my end and there's not really anything good that can come from providing that information, I am inclined to assign a higher probability to their being a bad outcome. To be clear, I am writing all this in the context of providing "Show HN" feedback. The login seems like clicking a checkbox on the checklist of "startup best practices" sitting in Github repository. Collecting emails and Facebook logins is easier than listening to users. Emails and Facebook provide ways of telling rather than listening.
perilunar 9y ago
Nice work! I've been looking for a good timeline script for a project I'm doing. I'm currently using vis.js [1], but this looks good also. Is the script available for use via an API, or do you only offer iframe embeds? 1. http://visjs.org/timeline_examples.html http://visjs.org/timeline_examples.html
- Jenkam 9y ago
  What kind of API do you want?
  - perilunar 9y ago
    Well, instead of embedding an already built timeline in my site via an iframe, I want to be able to add a script to my page and build/modify the timeline dynamically (e.g. creating events from a database). Different use case. It's cool if it's not what you are interested in building. Visjs does that already so there may not be a market for it.
    - Jenkam 9y ago
      It is not our model. But if you ready pay for this, we will think about it.

16 points by Jenkam 9y ago

fiatjaf 9y ago

I have no words for how amazing this is. Also, "percentage" is written with a C.

Jenkam 9y ago
Thanks. Okay, we gonna fix it this week.
Jenkam 9y ago
Sorry, it's good.) perCentage

fiatjaf 9y ago

It says it downloads stuff (JSON, CSV etc). If I want it to render a chart with some data generated in a server, would that be possible? I don't see how.

Jenkam 9y ago
Yes. You can display any statistic information from you website or database by implementing api: You data should look like (per row): date, value ... ...

mtmail 9y ago

Small issue: On my 27" monitor full-screen the hamburger menu is shown on the top right, thus hiding the links to the excellent https://time.graphics/popular/ https://time.graphics/popular/ for example. Tested in Firefox and Google Chrome.

Jenkam 9y ago
We will check this asap, thank you.

brudgers 9y ago

[random advice from the internet] I think the idea is interesting and the execution seems well done. Because, I don't want to log in with Facebook to save, I can't see the end result and ultimately have no idea whether or not it is actually any good. So I will probably never use it, and almost certainly never recommend it (since I have no idea if at the end of the road Time.graphics is actually any good. From a business standpoint: What is the business value of a visitor's Facebook login? What is the business value of providing accurate knowledge of the *final* product to a visitor? What business problem does obtaining a visitor's Facebook login directly solve right now, here in the context of a 'Show HN'? Years ago I tried selling software and my strategy was simple. I made a free demo version that showed what could be done and provided a lousy high level functional experience (i.e. it could not be used for actual work) so that people would buy it. I don't think people tend to buy software that leaves them with a bad taste in their mouth. I don't think time spent building tooling that makes the demo lousy is time well spent. At any size it makes sense to understand potential users. At a certain size it probably makes sense to use Facebook as a tool to aggregate data. When there are only a couple of hundred or ten or one, then it is better view them individually. Ask them, "Am I solving your problem?" Good luck.

fiatjaf 9y ago
There's an email + password login right below the Facebook login. But yes, a demo seems like a good idea, if it is not too hard.
- Jenkam 9y ago
  I don't understand what you mean. What demo?
- brudgers 9y ago
  Providing an email address is not part of my 'timeline problem' I am trying to solve. Not providing an email address (or Facebook login) is part of another problem that I have been trying to solve for years. That's not to say that providing an email address or a Facebook login is always too high a price. But here there is no significant benefit to providing it and a reasonable probability of detriment based on my experience. Going further, there is no functional reason for requiring a login. Because the login sits in front of all the value on my end and there's not really anything good that can come from providing that information, I am inclined to assign a higher probability to their being a bad outcome. To be clear, I am writing all this in the context of providing "Show HN" feedback. The login seems like clicking a checkbox on the checklist of "startup best practices" sitting in Github repository. Collecting emails and Facebook logins is easier than listening to users. Emails and Facebook provide ways of telling rather than listening.

perilunar 9y ago

Nice work! I've been looking for a good timeline script for a project I'm doing. I'm currently using vis.js [1], but this looks good also. Is the script available for use via an API, or do you only offer iframe embeds? 1. http://visjs.org/timeline_examples.html http://visjs.org/timeline_examples.html

Jenkam 9y ago
What kind of API do you want?
- perilunar 9y ago
  Well, instead of embedding an already built timeline in my site via an iframe, I want to be able to add a script to my page and build/modify the timeline dynamically (e.g. creating events from a database). Different use case. It's cool if it's not what you are interested in building. Visjs does that already so there may not be a market for it.
  - Jenkam 9y ago
    It is not our model. But if you ready pay for this, we will think about it.