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> Google announced last week, for instance, that it had built an artificially intelligent tool that can read through comments and identify whether or not they a

> Google announced last week, for instance, that it had built an artificially intelligent tool that can read through comments and identify whether or not they are "toxic". Censorship at its finest.

KekDemaga 9y ago
"Censorship + Math != Censorship" evidently.
- kurthr 9y ago
  We seem to have a choice between that and S#1T Posting and Spamming. Now, I suppose Poe's law could limit some sarcasm, but I'm not sure that would be a real loss either.
anthonybullard 9y ago
I'm Interested in knowing if you see submission guidelines/terms of conditions to be censorious as well then. The sensible approach when dealing with speech protections is that censorship can only come from the State since its muffling of speech is universal throughout a society and is backed by an implicit threat of violence. There is no inherent right to a soapbox upon which to stand on. A private party being in a position where they must broadcast any speech from any source is actually in this arrangement an abridgement of their own speech. Now that being said, there is a reasonable point of view that says while it should not be legally mandated, private party filtering and editing of content acquired from third parties through some sort of public accommodation _seems_ dishonest. But the truth is, publications writ large exist to transmit a particular experience, whether that be cultural, ideological, or technical(in the sense of the mechanics of conversation a la HN). While this would not be ideal if taken to a no-exceptions type extreme, as long as State censorship is fought off and defended successfully, there types speech that gets muffled through one publication can and will find a light through another.
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mtl_usr 9y ago
I've seen a few good classifiers to filter hate speech in tweet s at a few hackathons. Of course they rely on a wordlist 90 % of the time but it would eliminate the trashiest comments quite well.
BeetleB 9y ago
>Censorship at its finest. I doubt you meant it that way, but it really is a fine way to censor.

> Google announced last week, for instance, that it had built an artificially intelligent tool that can read through comments and identify whether or not they are "toxic". Censorship at its finest.

KekDemaga 9y ago

"Censorship + Math != Censorship" evidently.

kurthr 9y ago
We seem to have a choice between that and S#1T Posting and Spamming. Now, I suppose Poe's law could limit some sarcasm, but I'm not sure that would be a real loss either.

anthonybullard 9y ago

I'm Interested in knowing if you see submission guidelines/terms of conditions to be censorious as well then. The sensible approach when dealing with speech protections is that censorship can only come from the State since its muffling of speech is universal throughout a society and is backed by an implicit threat of violence. There is no inherent right to a soapbox upon which to stand on. A private party being in a position where they must broadcast any speech from any source is actually in this arrangement an abridgement of their own speech. Now that being said, there is a reasonable point of view that says while it should not be legally mandated, private party filtering and editing of content acquired from third parties through some sort of public accommodation _seems_ dishonest. But the truth is, publications writ large exist to transmit a particular experience, whether that be cultural, ideological, or technical(in the sense of the mechanics of conversation a la HN). While this would not be ideal if taken to a no-exceptions type extreme, as long as State censorship is fought off and defended successfully, there types speech that gets muffled through one publication can and will find a light through another.

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mtl_usr 9y ago

I've seen a few good classifiers to filter hate speech in tweet s at a few hackathons. Of course they rely on a wordlist 90 % of the time but it would eliminate the trashiest comments quite well.

BeetleB 9y ago

>Censorship at its finest. I doubt you meant it that way, but it really is a fine way to censor.