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> Does the fact that it's not their core contradict what I'm saying? Yes it does. Youtube is not about music, their focus lies somewhere else, music complement
by thinbeige 9y ago
> Does the fact that it's not their core contradict what I'm saying?
Yes it does. Youtube is not about music, their focus lies somewhere else, music complements their product but they are not dependent on it and besides, it's a just one rev stream compared to their main rev channels. Another example: Apple has Apple Music to strengthen the network effect of their products, not because they want to enter the music business. So, both used labels to complement their core products. Both would survive without deals to the labels. SoundCloud would not survive without those deals because then SoundCloud wouldn't have any product.
> As I said, tremendously difficult, yes, but not impossible.
I disagree, 10 years negotiations sounds like something impossible for a company which core solely relies on music, who wants to fund a company for 10 years with an unclear outcome?? For Youtube it was a different story: In this ten years Youtube severely damaged GEMA's reputation by displaying billion times that it's GEMA's fault that user can't listen to music. So, it's questionable if any other company with less power would have been able to strike a deal with the GEMA. Anyways, Youtube could have negotiated 100 years, they still would make revs through other channels.
- snom380 9y agoYoutube is about user uploaded content, and without a content recognition system in place for video and audio and licensing in place with both the movie and music industry they would have been dead in the water, just like SoundCloud. What other revenue streams would they have that would have worked without that? As the article mentions, SoundCloud eventually did reach an agreement with the music companies, showing that it didn't have to take 10 years, but took longer still than they expected. So my theory is that the business model is not broken by design as you claim, but that SoundCloud got into the trouble it is now in by poor strategy and decision making.
- rhizome 9y agoSo my theory is that the business model is not broken by design as you claim If the solution is that they just charge $80/mo, then "well duh," but there are other, non-licensing, forces involved at that point. The labels would love their slice of that model, but good luck selling it.