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I'm not suggesting this is a JavaScript-specific issue, there are plenty of other languages without solid Qt bindings, and the suggestion that someone should le

I'm not suggesting this is a JavaScript-specific issue, there are plenty of other languages without solid Qt bindings, and the suggestion that someone should learn a whole new language just to use one library is a little absurd.

pjmlp 9y ago
Well, people learn SQL to use databases, Ruby to use Rails, C to do IoT or UNIX kernel development,R and Python for data analysis..... If they want to ship a product with good UI/UX quality, then they should learn the supported languages. It is all about placing customers above personal preferences. I bash C a lot, yet I will use it without thinking twice about it, if is the best solution for solving out our customer's project requirements. Then again, I never bought into Developer Technology X mentality.
- ZenoArrow 9y ago
  > "If they want to ship a product with good UI/UX quality, then they should learn the supported languages." The time sunk in learning a new programming language is not inconsequential. You can get to a basic level of proficiency relatively quickly, but being productive in a language takes time and effort. If I took your approach I'd constantly need to switch languages and rely on glue logic to piece them together. Just because a language is 'the best' at one thing doesn't mean it's always the right choice for a project that has multiple requirements. Should all regular expressions be written in Perl? Should all mathematical operations be written in Fortran? Should all macros be written in Common Lisp? Should all data structures be described in Idris?
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Which is what we do in consultancy, and I am talking about personal experience here. We deliver projects in Java (Swing, JavaFX, Android, JEE, Spring), .NET (Forms, WPF, ASP.NET, UWP), C++ (NDK, .NET, Java native methods), Objective-C/Swift (iOS), PL/SQL(Oracle), Transact-SQL(MS SQL Server), pg/SQL (PostgreSQL), JavaScript(Web). Every 6 months or so, we tend to switch customer and respective project stack, being able to proficiently jump between technology stacks is expected.
    - ZenoArrow 9y ago
      That's not what we're talking about though. What we're talking about is developing outside the bounds of battle-tested stacks. To use another example, let's say I was writing an app in C#. Should I use a JVM GUI library just because I liked it better than the .NET ones? Even if it's technically possible, it's far from optimal.
      - pjmlp 9y ago
        We have done it a couple of times via IKVM, to access libraries like Lucene or MarvinView. We also have projects with application servers written in JEE, using native desktop GUIs in WPF, talking via REST to those servers.
mmargerum 9y ago
The Go language would pair up nicely with QT since it produces executables with no external dependencies.

pjmlp 9y ago

Well, people learn SQL to use databases, Ruby to use Rails, C to do IoT or UNIX kernel development,R and Python for data analysis..... If they want to ship a product with good UI/UX quality, then they should learn the supported languages. It is all about placing customers above personal preferences. I bash C a lot, yet I will use it without thinking twice about it, if is the best solution for solving out our customer's project requirements. Then again, I never bought into Developer Technology X mentality.

ZenoArrow 9y ago
> "If they want to ship a product with good UI/UX quality, then they should learn the supported languages." The time sunk in learning a new programming language is not inconsequential. You can get to a basic level of proficiency relatively quickly, but being productive in a language takes time and effort. If I took your approach I'd constantly need to switch languages and rely on glue logic to piece them together. Just because a language is 'the best' at one thing doesn't mean it's always the right choice for a project that has multiple requirements. Should all regular expressions be written in Perl? Should all mathematical operations be written in Fortran? Should all macros be written in Common Lisp? Should all data structures be described in Idris?
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Which is what we do in consultancy, and I am talking about personal experience here. We deliver projects in Java (Swing, JavaFX, Android, JEE, Spring), .NET (Forms, WPF, ASP.NET, UWP), C++ (NDK, .NET, Java native methods), Objective-C/Swift (iOS), PL/SQL(Oracle), Transact-SQL(MS SQL Server), pg/SQL (PostgreSQL), JavaScript(Web). Every 6 months or so, we tend to switch customer and respective project stack, being able to proficiently jump between technology stacks is expected.
  - ZenoArrow 9y ago
    That's not what we're talking about though. What we're talking about is developing outside the bounds of battle-tested stacks. To use another example, let's say I was writing an app in C#. Should I use a JVM GUI library just because I liked it better than the .NET ones? Even if it's technically possible, it's far from optimal.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      We have done it a couple of times via IKVM, to access libraries like Lucene or MarvinView. We also have projects with application servers written in JEE, using native desktop GUIs in WPF, talking via REST to those servers.

mmargerum 9y ago

The Go language would pair up nicely with QT since it produces executables with no external dependencies.