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Sure. Capitalism is low-class. Upper classes don't need to mess around with any of that lowly wealth-creation nonsense. They already have wealth, why bother mak

Sure. Capitalism is low-class. Upper classes don't need to mess around with any of that lowly wealth-creation nonsense. They already have wealth, why bother making more of it? The cigar-chomping capitalist stereotype is just the classist observation that you can never really change your class, only accumulate cash, which is the lowest form of wealth. Rappers seem very self-aware of this and poke fun at the tropes whenever they can. When the cigarette-smoking vagrant finally sees a little success, he switches over to cigars and thinks he's something.

jimnotgym 9y ago
The class system in the UK is rather different. Our 'captains of industry' are commonly upper-middle class. Suprised if the the US is actually that different.
- vinceguidry 9y ago
  I was actually thinking more along the lines of continental Europe, where class lines were really stark through most of history and in many ways still are now. The UK has a very interesting relationship with class, one I constantly hunger for new insights on. A recent article on the class divide between barristers and their clerks had me riveted. The US is easy. We're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Everybody in the US is classist against everybody else. Makes it simple really.
  - jimnotgym 9y ago
    I think the most important issue in the UK is whether your parents can afford to send you to a 'public school'. Public in this sense means 'not at home with a tutor', and actually means an obscenely expensive school with hundreds of years of history. Think 'Hogwarts' and you will be very close. A boy attending one of these (yes a boy, the situation is not quite the same for girls) has a very high chance of getting into the best universities and of getting a well paid job afterwards. The 'old boys network' ensures this continues. Pick 10 random Members of Parliament and see where they went to school. Pick 10 random VC partners. The barrister clerk one is at least honest and open. They live in a world of wigs and gowns and oak panelled rooms where the clerks call them 'sir'. 'Pupils' (trainee barristers who have finished their academic training of law school plus specific training ) traditionally work for free in their early years, which keeps the poor people out pretty effectively. Alas I was born to the wrong family...
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jimnotgym 9y ago

The class system in the UK is rather different. Our 'captains of industry' are commonly upper-middle class. Suprised if the the US is actually that different.

vinceguidry 9y ago
I was actually thinking more along the lines of continental Europe, where class lines were really stark through most of history and in many ways still are now. The UK has a very interesting relationship with class, one I constantly hunger for new insights on. A recent article on the class divide between barristers and their clerks had me riveted. The US is easy. We're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. Everybody in the US is classist against everybody else. Makes it simple really.
- jimnotgym 9y ago
  I think the most important issue in the UK is whether your parents can afford to send you to a 'public school'. Public in this sense means 'not at home with a tutor', and actually means an obscenely expensive school with hundreds of years of history. Think 'Hogwarts' and you will be very close. A boy attending one of these (yes a boy, the situation is not quite the same for girls) has a very high chance of getting into the best universities and of getting a well paid job afterwards. The 'old boys network' ensures this continues. Pick 10 random Members of Parliament and see where they went to school. Pick 10 random VC partners. The barrister clerk one is at least honest and open. They live in a world of wigs and gowns and oak panelled rooms where the clerks call them 'sir'. 'Pupils' (trainee barristers who have finished their academic training of law school plus specific training ) traditionally work for free in their early years, which keeps the poor people out pretty effectively. Alas I was born to the wrong family...

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