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Why think in either-or terms? It's not either-or, but my question here concerns the societal attitudes toward theft and their effect on its prevalence, not the
by nkurz 9y ago
Why think in either-or terms?
It's not either-or, but my question here concerns the societal attitudes toward theft and their effect on its prevalence, not the practicalities of reducing the risk of theft.
But imagine leaving a car unlocked and ready to go. How would you feel about the situation then?
I'd feel exactly the same. There are still many parts of the US where cars are regularly left unlocked, often enough with the key in the ignition if it's somewhere considered safe like a private driveway. Where I grew up in rural Wisconsin (northern USA) the joke was that you only needed to lock your car in the late autumn, because if you didn't someone might fill it with unwanted zucchini. Inspired by this joke, I filled several teachers' cars with squash after the first frost.
In these same areas, it's also the case that many houses are rarely if ever locked. I don't think I've ever saw a key for the house I grew up in, and I'm certain I never had one for myself. In the same way that coins in a blind man's cup are not considered OK to steal just because he is not able to defend himself well, having an unlocked house or car is not considered to be granting permission to thieves. Transgression is viewed very negatively even if the level of difficulty is low.
Tying this back to hacking, In 1990, Harper's Magazine published a seminal roundtable article titled "Is Computer Hacking a Crime?" (http://www.textfiles.com/news/hackers.txt http://www.textfiles.com/news/hackers.txt). In it, John Perry Barlow makes this comment:
"BARLOW [Day 2. 10:41 P.M.]: I live in a small town. I don't have a key to my house. Am I asking for it? I think not. Among the juvenile delinquents in my town, there does exist a vandal's ethic. I know because I once was one. In a real community, part of a kid's rite of passage is discovering what walls can be breached. Driving 110 miles per hour on Main Street is a common symptom of rural adolescence, publicly denounced but privately understood. Many teenagers die in this quest-two just the night before last-but it is basic to our culture. Even rebellious kids understand that risk to one's safety is one thing, wanton vandalism or theft is another. As a result, almost no one locks anything here. In fact, a security system is an affront to a teenage psyche. While a kid might be dissuaded by conscience, he will regard a barricade as an insult and a challenge."
My point isn't that there is one right approach, but that there is an interplay between attitudes and actions. Is it possible for cars and houses to be left unlocked just because it is currently a low-crime area, or might the fact that cars and houses are unlocked --- combined with a lack of tolerance for crime --- help to keep these as low-crime areas where such an approach is possible?
- vanderZwan 9y agoI understand where you are coming from, but: > BARLOW [Day 2. 10:41 P.M.]: I live in a small town. This is the key element here. In a small town, the tight social connections take care of this issue. I know because I grew up in one, just like you. We also did not lock our doors, nor our bikes for that matter. I even forgot my bike in town once as a kid, just before we went on holiday for two weeks, and when we came back my bike was on our driveway with a note from the butcher saying "Hey, you forgot your bike" - he apparently asked around and some people recognised it was my bike. That's how tight the social network is (which also has it's downsides, but that's another discussion). But the Google Campus is not a small town, and arguably one of the fundamental aspect of being a large city is that many socially disconnected people live in the same space. And in that situation, you need a lock. Our village started locking its doors because criminals from a nearby city realised that we didn't. Our area is very sparsely populated, so we don't have a large police force; just one or two vehicles. During work hours, when many people are at work, they would commit a distraction crime in one village, then rob a bunch of houses in another knowing the police was away. Of course we should get those thieves behind bars, but at the same time: not locking the door leaves you vulnerable to anyone outside of the community who comes up with the same idea. And in a city, with it's many sub-societies stacked upon another, people like that will exist.
- euyyn 9y ago> But the Google Campus is not a small town, and arguably one of the fundamental aspect of being a large city Have you been to Mountain View, and to the Google campus? :) It takes resolution to walk to the Googleplex, grab a bike, and ride it all the way back. Even if the campus were in the middle of Mountain View, it's definitely not a large city.
- vanderZwan 9y agoThat's fair, I don't really know anything about the campus, but I'm pretty sure the area still beats my old village of 1500 people in total :P
- maxerickson 9y ago