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It a little weird to me to call it porn, all of the described bespoke videos include nothing of what could be considered a sexual nature (to the conventionally
by stevenwoo 9y ago
It a little weird to me to call it porn, all of the described bespoke videos include nothing of what could be considered a sexual nature (to the conventionally minded I suppose )- you could display them on network TV in the USA when children are watching without the FCC's wrath (unless they showed the women peeing graphically and they really didn't describe the nun video very well). They sound more like customized therapy videos.
- ending 9y agoFunny, I expect that if one marketed such services as "customized therapy videos," one would confront immediate objections that the service was facilitating heinous pornography.
- ivanbakel 9y agoI suppose they're only "safe for TV" because they're so unusual to be custom-made in the first place. The moment your preferences move away from sex, most of the market abandons you. So long as they have a sexual significance to the people who pay to view them, though, I would call them porn.
- true_religion 9y agoWhat do you mean by most of the market abandons you? I'm actually confused on this one.
- taneq 9y agoWell there's no "women in heels stomping on stamp sheets" section on pornhub, is there?
- true_religion 9y agoOh, this is with regards to 'porn' still then. The women stomping on stamp sheets bit is female domination which has always been very niche. Niche sites generally don't find themselves on pornhub because (a) their viewers like the site enough not to do that and (b) since their audience is so small, they can't afford to let it be satisfied 'for free' elsewhere. Also I should clarify... the women stomping on sheets video likely involved a lot of verbal dirty talking as well, or provocative shots. If you actually watched it, you'd figure out its porn fairly quickly even if you weren't aroused by it.
- int_19h 9y ago> female domination which has always been very niche. Niche sites generally don't find themselves on pornhub You've got to be kidding. If not, then go to PornHub, and type "femdom" in the search.
- true_religion 9y agoThey are nice because of the volume produced and demanded versus that of more mainstream interests. This doesn't mean their content is non existent on mainstream sites, merely that the majority of it is still controlled under the paysite.
- int_19h 9y agoYou're moving the goalposts. At first you said it's not on those large websites at all; now you're saying that it is, but most of it is still on paysites, and that's where most of the clientele goes. Coincidentally, you're still wrong about that latter claim. Do the same experiment, except now do it in Google video search, and disable safe mode. Look at the number of the results. Do you seriously think that this amount of free content is not enough for a lot of people?
- true_religion 9y ago> You're moving the goalposts. At first you said it's not on those large websites at all No. taneq said that. I'm not taneq. In fact taneq said that in response to me asking someone else a question. I said "Niche sites generally don't find themselves on pornhub because .... ". I think I equivocated quite a bit there to the point that my goal posts can be mounted on roller blades without changing the nature of the game. :) > Do you seriously think that this amount of free content is not enough for a lot of people? No. Source: The company I work for sells this exact same content to a lot of people. At least in my head, proprietary data and work experience is going to trump Google video searches and rhetoric.
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- doug1001 9y agosadly, no
- pimlottc 9y agoYeah, I found that confusing, unless The Guardian is just being extremely coy?
- pmarreck 9y agoI'm guessing it's because the economy of paying people to make titillating videos of somehow-not-actually-sex is far more puzzling (and interesting in a non-prurient way) than the economy of paying people to make titillating videos of sex
- Finnucane 9y agoI think the idea is that the viewer is presumed to be getting a prurient thrill out of the video, even if it is filmed in a way that only works for that one person.
- porn_throwaway 9y agoThe graphicness depends on the customer's request, but can of course be very explicit. A common euphemism in the community is colors such as "yellow", "red" and "brown", which I'm sure you can figure out what they correspond to.
- stevenwoo 9y agoThanks for the clarification. The writer should have been more clear like you - or maybe I was too literal into thinking what was written was everything.
- trentmb 9y agoPortfolio for the company discussed in the article: https://anatomikmedia.com/portfolio/ https://anatomikmedia.com/portfolio/ Plenty pornographic.
- psyc 9y agoPrecisely because this doesn't even cross the minds of the conventional, fetishists commonly "challenge" teens and young children on YouTube to, unwittingly, create fetish material for them. This phenomenon is up there in the top 5 most troubling things I've learned about the Internet.
- wodenokoto 9y agoI think it is because the only examples in the article are the outliers. There is a short mention about how you can wing a jerk off instruction, which indicates that other parts of their work is pornographic in nature. The big problem with this piece is that it doesn't discuss how much fit the bill of sexual porn and how much is hardly recognisable as pornography.