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Get real, there will be leaks of business data if this goes throught. Indian administration is already very corrupt at all levels.

by borisk 16y ago

plinkplonk 16y ago
In other words you have no data or facts of any kind. Any instances of organized economic espionage as a policy by the Indian Government from before the days of the BlackBerry? I thought not. "Get Real" isn't an argument. Any instances of corrupt bureaucrats (they exist, sure) using an Intelligence Agency to expedite their corruption by intercepting Multinational Communications? Any instances of non blackberry spying on Multinationals, hacking into their computers etc(like what happened with Google in China)? Do tell.
- borisk 16y ago
  I see, Indian government hires only super humans, who never ever take a bribe. http://www.google.com/search?q=india+bribe http://www.google.com/search?q=india+bribe
  - plinkplonk 16y ago
    The point is not whether individuals take bribes. Of course some do. The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications. US senators are bribed too. That doesn't mean that the CIA , the DHS or the NSA makes it their business to facilitate such corruption or that any anti terrorism policy adopted by the US government is automatically targeted towards benefiting such bribe takers. The latter accusation would need more proof then "Well in my ignorant paranoia I think this would happen" . Do you also believe that the US Govt brought down the Twin Towers? After all not everyone in the US Govt is a superhuman patriot who would never work against his own country? After all many foreigners think (with good reason) that the US is a very warmongering country. Is that a good enough rationale?
    - borisk 16y ago
      "The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications." Really? I must have misspelled something ;)
    - briansmith 16y ago
      Regardless of the intent, it opens the door for abuse. It's like leaving a loaded gun in your baby's crib. Regardless of your good intentions, the potential for something to go bad is too great for it to be worthwhile.

Get real, there will be leaks of business data if this goes throught. Indian administration is already very corrupt at all levels.

by borisk 16y ago

Get real, there will be leaks of business data if this goes throught. Indian administration is already very corrupt at all levels.

plinkplonk 16y ago

In other words you have no data or facts of any kind. Any instances of organized economic espionage as a policy by the Indian Government from before the days of the BlackBerry? I thought not. "Get Real" isn't an argument. Any instances of corrupt bureaucrats (they exist, sure) using an Intelligence Agency to expedite their corruption by intercepting Multinational Communications? Any instances of non blackberry spying on Multinationals, hacking into their computers etc(like what happened with Google in China)? Do tell.

borisk 16y ago
I see, Indian government hires only super humans, who never ever take a bribe. http://www.google.com/search?q=india+bribe http://www.google.com/search?q=india+bribe
- plinkplonk 16y ago
  The point is not whether individuals take bribes. Of course some do. The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications. US senators are bribed too. That doesn't mean that the CIA , the DHS or the NSA makes it their business to facilitate such corruption or that any anti terrorism policy adopted by the US government is automatically targeted towards benefiting such bribe takers. The latter accusation would need more proof then "Well in my ignorant paranoia I think this would happen" . Do you also believe that the US Govt brought down the Twin Towers? After all not everyone in the US Govt is a superhuman patriot who would never work against his own country? After all many foreigners think (with good reason) that the US is a very warmongering country. Is that a good enough rationale?
  - borisk 16y ago
    "The subject under discussion is your implication that the request for decrypted BlackBerry data (which is being driven by the Intelligence agencies and the Home ministry) is done so with an intention to facilitate such bribery by intercepting multinational communications." Really? I must have misspelled something ;)
  - briansmith 16y ago
    Regardless of the intent, it opens the door for abuse. It's like leaving a loaded gun in your baby's crib. Regardless of your good intentions, the potential for something to go bad is too great for it to be worthwhile.