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Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.
by bradleyjg 9y ago
Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.
- kristianov 9y agoSurface Book and Surface Laptop are quite good.
- vvanders 9y ago+1 on Surface Book. Great build quality, good dev machine and decent gaming laptop as well.
- cgb223 9y agoWas thinking about getting one for work, and gaming is a nice perk What kind of specs/graphics/resolution do you get on that for games?
- vvanders 9y agoJust make sure to grab one with the discrete GPU(dGPU aka Performance Base). It's not going to be anything near a desktop(no laptop will) but I can run most things at 1080p pretty well and some of the lighter stuff(like Pyre) at 3Kx2k(native resolution).
- FiveDegrees 9y agoI would strongly recommend the XPS 15 9560 over it, if you don't need it to be able to convert it to a tablet. More performant, cheaper, better screen.
- reboog711 9y agoJust wait 6 months or so after release....
- UnoriginalGuy 9y agoFor what? I own a Surface Pro 3 and a Surface Book. Both have only been improved through firmware updates after release. There was actually some pain points on the SP3 right around release that caused some headaches.
- reboog711 9y agoGenerally the Surface products have a poor history of 'working' at launch. The reason for waiting is that the firmware improvements come out before you get the machine. My Surface Book was a spotchy experience for the first 6 months or so. by month 6 it was running acceptably.
- m_mueller 9y agoAren't they roughly the same price as Macbooks?
- UnoriginalGuy 9y agoThere's no way to answer that without a bias. It depends which Mac you feel is most comparable to the Surface Laptop, what value is placed on Touchbar (if any), what value is placed on a touchscreen (if any), how much value you place on a slightly faster integrated GPU or a slightly faster CPU (Macbook Pro 13" or Surface Laptop respectively), and numerous other metrics. Broadly speaking I'd likely say, "similar," but there might also be a $200 saving buying the Surface Laptop relative to a similarly spec-ed Macbook Pro 13". I don't consider that a significant saving when we're discussion laptops costing over $1200, but the savings grow as price increases.
- mycall 9y agoI'd like to see 4 or 6 cores.
- UnoriginalGuy 9y agoIf you stick to the boring Thinkpads (T series and P series) they're fairly safe bets. Some of Dell's business grade laptops are also built like tanks. Neither company's consumer grade (read: cheap) I'd touch. Microsoft makes good hardware, but you'll pay borderline "Apple Prices" for it. Only big mistake Microsoft has made is trying to ship the Surface Laptop starting at $999 and topping out at $2199, with Windows 10 S, which you'll be able to "upgrade" "free" for a "limited time only." Meaning, when that promo runs out you may need to pay a $50 fee on your $999 Surface Laptop to get a full copy of Windows 10. To say that annoys me would be a huge understatement.
- phr4ts 9y agoYes it's annoying but forgivable when you consider that MS's first priority with its Surface Line is to run a profitable tech demo rather than competing its own foremost customers - Dell, HP...
- Anechoic 9y agoIf you stick to the boring Thinkpads (T series and P series) Anecdotal, but two out of three T series Thinkpads has sudden motherboard failures. No problems with 3 MacBooks or 3 Inspirons. We're done buying Lenovo.
- zzalpha 9y agoCounter anecdata: My office is full of T and W series Lenovos. I myself have a first generation Carbon as my work machine. My personal machine was a T410 (and before that another T series) until I recently got a new Carbon. Absolutely zero reports of problems. None.
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y agoA maxed out ThinkPad P71 is AU$13,250 (about US$10,000), but still no option for on site warranty (through the AU store anyway).
- petilon 9y agoI highly recommend Samsung ATIV Book 9. In my opinion they are better than macbooks. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X19MJZZ/ref=psdc_13896615011_t3_B019919RG8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X19MJZZ/ref=psdc_13896615011_t3...
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- sangd 9y agoI really like the Surface Pro. It's a very nice combo of a tablet & a laptop with lots of power like a laptop. I've used Dell's XPS & Inspiron models. They've last quite long. Their hardware does fail after 4+ years, but acceptable and replaceable and they're inexpensive to replace. I do own a Windows desktop with Xeon core, and it's very powerful PC. Its price is probably 1/4 of the Mac Pro. Definitely not HPs, they're bad computers, both laptops and desktop. Thinkpads are good, but I've never tried one after Lenovo took over.
- delhanty 9y agoFor those considering MS Surface, be aware that, unlike Apple, support is limited to the country that you purchased the device in. See this comment from 2 months ago on HN [1]. Because of that negative point, I'm now considering one of the Ubuntu Dell Precision models and would appreciate any experiences on HN of Dell and international support for business class laptops. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14400873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14400873
- nailer 9y agoAuthor of that comment here. Still being sent back and forth between Microsoft UK and Microsoft US with an occasionally unusable laptop.
- mtl_usr 9y agoSuch a good way to attract pro users. The number of Apple store and their world-wide support is one of the reason I see a lot of pro users reluctant to buy something else than a MacBook. This makes absolutely no sense since the only buyers of Surface products are as of now pretty much only "pro" users.
- zzalpha 9y agoIf your willing to pay MacBook prices I'd give Lenovo another look. The latest Carbon is just... a perfect laptop as far as I'm concerned.
- matt_wulfeck 9y agoIt may be MacBook prices but they certainly don't offer Apple support. I'm never going to go through that hassle again.
- duncan_bayne 9y agoBut sir, you did not purchase the extended accidental damage act of God fragile electronics warranty!
- zzalpha 9y agoYeah, fair point. Fortunately I've only once ever had to get service for a Lenovo in the 10+ years I've owned one. But you're not wrong.