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Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. So really, you are the one saying we're on the verge of the 4th Reigh, you shou

Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. So really, you are the one saying we're on the verge of the 4th Reigh, you should be the one stockpiling ammo, after all, that's a Rights the alt-right is fighting for you to have. Dilemma, you said ?

grasshopperpurp 9y ago
I have a hard time imagining even a large group of people with vast stockpiles of weapons competing on any level with the largest military in the history of the world. If the US government turns against its citizens, it's game over. Or, to quote Andre Benjamin, While we ranting and raving about gats / N%&, they made them gats / They got some shit that'll blow out our backs.
- alacombe 9y ago
  They did during the Revolutionary War, even after King George III attempt at gun control with the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder.
- pdeuchler 9y ago
  Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...
  - ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
    Vietnam was more of a failure due to anti-American agitators within the u.s. government and media, but your other points are valid. Also people who think the military would turn against the people are insane... the people stockpiling ammo are overwhelmingly military related.
- mamcx 9y ago
  Don't limit your thinking about just raw militar mighty. Victory is not just about how much raw damage you can do, is how you define victory. In the case of Vietnam, them understood this very well. Is super-clear you can't defeat a more powerfull army if you charge ahead. So, you don't.
pjc50 9y ago
This is essentially what the Black Panthers tried, isn't it?
dguaraglia 9y ago
> Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. Funny, I've heard that argument thrown around so many times it's lost all meaning. During Obama, we were a fart away from him taking our guns... Jade Helm 15 came and went, and here we are. Still owning guns. Now, Trump tells the police it's OK to rough suspects here and there, and "the righteous right" doesn't make a comment about how tyrannical that sounds. Wonder why? (BTW, all that to say that the argument is kind of lame... if the government was to go tyrannical, their repressive tools are pretty damn impressive. They won't do it that way, they'll just use propaganda.)

grasshopperpurp 9y ago

I have a hard time imagining even a large group of people with vast stockpiles of weapons competing on any level with the largest military in the history of the world. If the US government turns against its citizens, it's game over. Or, to quote Andre Benjamin, While we ranting and raving about gats / N%&, they made them gats / They got some shit that'll blow out our backs.

alacombe 9y ago
They did during the Revolutionary War, even after King George III attempt at gun control with the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder.
pdeuchler 9y ago
Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...
- ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
  Vietnam was more of a failure due to anti-American agitators within the u.s. government and media, but your other points are valid. Also people who think the military would turn against the people are insane... the people stockpiling ammo are overwhelmingly military related.
mamcx 9y ago
Don't limit your thinking about just raw militar mighty. Victory is not just about how much raw damage you can do, is how you define victory. In the case of Vietnam, them understood this very well. Is super-clear you can't defeat a more powerfull army if you charge ahead. So, you don't.

pjc50 9y ago

This is essentially what the Black Panthers tried, isn't it?

dguaraglia 9y ago

> Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. Funny, I've heard that argument thrown around so many times it's lost all meaning. During Obama, we were a fart away from him taking our guns... Jade Helm 15 came and went, and here we are. Still owning guns. Now, Trump tells the police it's OK to rough suspects here and there, and "the righteous right" doesn't make a comment about how tyrannical that sounds. Wonder why? (BTW, all that to say that the argument is kind of lame... if the government was to go tyrannical, their repressive tools are pretty damn impressive. They won't do it that way, they'll just use propaganda.)