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The "new age" thing has been going on for a really long time. That these people happen to be "the left" is neither here nor there. The Alex Jones phenomenon of

The "new age" thing has been going on for a really long time. That these people happen to be "the left" is neither here nor there. The Alex Jones phenomenon of "occult forces are out to kill us all" has only become mainstream now. There's a huge difference between people drinking "magical water" and preparing for apocalypse (which they are told is coming any day now, in the hands of "the libruls") by buying racks full of guns.

alacombe 9y ago
Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. So really, you are the one saying we're on the verge of the 4th Reigh, you should be the one stockpiling ammo, after all, that's a Rights the alt-right is fighting for you to have. Dilemma, you said ?
- grasshopperpurp 9y ago
  I have a hard time imagining even a large group of people with vast stockpiles of weapons competing on any level with the largest military in the history of the world. If the US government turns against its citizens, it's game over. Or, to quote Andre Benjamin, While we ranting and raving about gats / N%&, they made them gats / They got some shit that'll blow out our backs.
  - alacombe 9y ago
    They did during the Revolutionary War, even after King George III attempt at gun control with the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder.
  - pdeuchler 9y ago
    Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...
    - ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
      Vietnam was more of a failure due to anti-American agitators within the u.s. government and media, but your other points are valid. Also people who think the military would turn against the people are insane... the people stockpiling ammo are overwhelmingly military related.
  - mamcx 9y ago
    Don't limit your thinking about just raw militar mighty. Victory is not just about how much raw damage you can do, is how you define victory. In the case of Vietnam, them understood this very well. Is super-clear you can't defeat a more powerfull army if you charge ahead. So, you don't.
- pjc50 9y ago
  This is essentially what the Black Panthers tried, isn't it?
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  > Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. Funny, I've heard that argument thrown around so many times it's lost all meaning. During Obama, we were a fart away from him taking our guns... Jade Helm 15 came and went, and here we are. Still owning guns. Now, Trump tells the police it's OK to rough suspects here and there, and "the righteous right" doesn't make a comment about how tyrannical that sounds. Wonder why? (BTW, all that to say that the argument is kind of lame... if the government was to go tyrannical, their repressive tools are pretty damn impressive. They won't do it that way, they'll just use propaganda.)
LyndsySimon 9y ago
> There's a huge difference between people drinking "magical water" and preparing for apocalypse (which they are told is coming any day now, in the hands of "the libruls") by buying racks full of guns. Not really. Firearms are common, unexceptional personal belongings for many people.
ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
No offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about. He never says that the water is magical, and he also never says that liberals are bringing the apocalypse. The left in America shoots themselves in the foot time and time again by refusing to learn the right's viewpoints and effectively counter them. The party of "skeptics" who live under a rock (or maybe in a cave?).
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  Huh? When I said the water was "magical" I was deriding the people who buy it, not the poster. Also, the "right" in America choses to live under a solid rock (as exemplified by them electing a reality TV presenter with a passing understanding of how the political system works as president and expecting him to magically fix everything they don't like) and they've given up on any pretense of actual discourse. I can't count how many times I've been told "the left doesn't understand", but when I ask exactly what "the left" doesn't understand I'm just given vague answers like "well, what the right wants." Of course "the left" will never understand if things aren't articulated. So maybe it's time everyone came out of the cave?

alacombe 9y ago

Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. So really, you are the one saying we're on the verge of the 4th Reigh, you should be the one stockpiling ammo, after all, that's a Rights the alt-right is fighting for you to have. Dilemma, you said ?

grasshopperpurp 9y ago
I have a hard time imagining even a large group of people with vast stockpiles of weapons competing on any level with the largest military in the history of the world. If the US government turns against its citizens, it's game over. Or, to quote Andre Benjamin, While we ranting and raving about gats / N%&, they made them gats / They got some shit that'll blow out our backs.
- alacombe 9y ago
  They did during the Revolutionary War, even after King George III attempt at gun control with the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder.
- pdeuchler 9y ago
  Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq...
  - ygfvvhygvn 9y ago
    Vietnam was more of a failure due to anti-American agitators within the u.s. government and media, but your other points are valid. Also people who think the military would turn against the people are insane... the people stockpiling ammo are overwhelmingly military related.
- mamcx 9y ago
  Don't limit your thinking about just raw militar mighty. Victory is not just about how much raw damage you can do, is how you define victory. In the case of Vietnam, them understood this very well. Is super-clear you can't defeat a more powerfull army if you charge ahead. So, you don't.
pjc50 9y ago
This is essentially what the Black Panthers tried, isn't it?
dguaraglia 9y ago
> Yet, guns might actually be useful to the left should the US ever go tyrannical. Funny, I've heard that argument thrown around so many times it's lost all meaning. During Obama, we were a fart away from him taking our guns... Jade Helm 15 came and went, and here we are. Still owning guns. Now, Trump tells the police it's OK to rough suspects here and there, and "the righteous right" doesn't make a comment about how tyrannical that sounds. Wonder why? (BTW, all that to say that the argument is kind of lame... if the government was to go tyrannical, their repressive tools are pretty damn impressive. They won't do it that way, they'll just use propaganda.)

LyndsySimon 9y ago

> There's a huge difference between people drinking "magical water" and preparing for apocalypse (which they are told is coming any day now, in the hands of "the libruls") by buying racks full of guns. Not really. Firearms are common, unexceptional personal belongings for many people.

ygfvvhygvn 9y ago

No offense, but you have no idea what you're talking about. He never says that the water is magical, and he also never says that liberals are bringing the apocalypse. The left in America shoots themselves in the foot time and time again by refusing to learn the right's viewpoints and effectively counter them. The party of "skeptics" who live under a rock (or maybe in a cave?).

dguaraglia 9y ago
Huh? When I said the water was "magical" I was deriding the people who buy it, not the poster. Also, the "right" in America choses to live under a solid rock (as exemplified by them electing a reality TV presenter with a passing understanding of how the political system works as president and expecting him to magically fix everything they don't like) and they've given up on any pretense of actual discourse. I can't count how many times I've been told "the left doesn't understand", but when I ask exactly what "the left" doesn't understand I'm just given vague answers like "well, what the right wants." Of course "the left" will never understand if things aren't articulated. So maybe it's time everyone came out of the cave?