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I read that there have been cases of poorly briefed Ukrainian tank crews escaping and leaving behind tanks that had huge holes in armor despite the armor workin

by FRex 9y ago

I read that there have been cases of poorly briefed Ukrainian tank crews escaping and leaving behind tanks that had huge holes in armor despite the armor working as intended and preventing damage to anything important and tank still being fully operational. Separatists took these over and patched/replaced the broken armor piece and used them. It might all have been bullshit though and I can't find that article from years ago(and it wasn't in English anyway).

throwanem 9y ago
Closest I can find is the claim that an IS-3 from late World War II has been reactivated from a war memorial and possibly sent into combat - where it would be unlikely to survive the modern environment for very long, I hasten to note, despite being apparently pretty good for its day. It's not implausible that a modern weapon could punch a hole in tank armor and nonetheless not only fail to achieve even a mission kill, but leave the crew alive. It is really, really improbable, though. I could buy that it'd happened once, although I'd like to see some kind of cite for that. I'd have a hard time believing it had happened twice in the same, as yet rather short, conflict.
- FRex 9y ago
  I have found the article but it's in Polish. I also have no idea how reputable source this is, they seem very good on the first glance. There are some website writing about 'military' that are basically right wing trash or propaganda or conspiracies (or all of the above). The hole was apparently not clean through because the original armor and extra layer and reactive armor installed during 'modernisations' did it job and protected the tank and the crew, it just now has this horribly looking hole in it so the Ukrainian crew abandoned it and separatists took it. This is a tank from the 60s, modernised in the 80s, by the way. http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,3,8,8725,pole-bitwy,1,twardy-pancerz-czyli-czy-czolg-zawsze-wybucha-po-trafieniu-cz-ii-t-64bw-wolki http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,3,8,8725,pole-bitwy,1... English Wikipedia also mentions 65 T-64s variants have been captured in Donbas (but the link is to a Russian website and I read Russian way too slowly and need a dictionary to do it so I can't confirm the citation): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Ukrainian_Ground_Forces#Tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Ukrainian_Gro...

by FRex 9y ago

throwanem 9y ago

Closest I can find is the claim that an IS-3 from late World War II has been reactivated from a war memorial and possibly sent into combat - where it would be unlikely to survive the modern environment for very long, I hasten to note, despite being apparently pretty good for its day. It's not implausible that a modern weapon could punch a hole in tank armor and nonetheless not only fail to achieve even a mission kill, but leave the crew alive. It is really, really improbable, though. I could buy that it'd happened once, although I'd like to see some kind of cite for that. I'd have a hard time believing it had happened twice in the same, as yet rather short, conflict.

FRex 9y ago
I have found the article but it's in Polish. I also have no idea how reputable source this is, they seem very good on the first glance. There are some website writing about 'military' that are basically right wing trash or propaganda or conspiracies (or all of the above). The hole was apparently not clean through because the original armor and extra layer and reactive armor installed during 'modernisations' did it job and protected the tank and the crew, it just now has this horribly looking hole in it so the Ukrainian crew abandoned it and separatists took it. This is a tank from the 60s, modernised in the 80s, by the way. http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,3,8,8725,pole-bitwy,1,twardy-pancerz-czyli-czy-czolg-zawsze-wybucha-po-trafieniu-cz-ii-t-64bw-wolki http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,3,8,8725,pole-bitwy,1... English Wikipedia also mentions 65 T-64s variants have been captured in Donbas (but the link is to a Russian website and I read Russian way too slowly and need a dictionary to do it so I can't confirm the citation): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Ukrainian_Ground_Forces#Tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Ukrainian_Gro...