3 ms·

Why is that racist? If they are not part of the problem, then who is? Also, what does this have to do at all with her thesis?

SidiousL 9y ago
It is racist and misandrist because it singles out _all_ white men. I don't know how I can make this any clearer. Would it be any easier to understand if you substituted "white men" with "jews"? And by the way, in what way are _all_ of them part of the problem? And how does she know that? Does she know all of them? How should I call somebody who unapologetically makes disparaging and hateful statements about whole groups of a people? The link with her thesis is that she wrote it. And by the way, let me just say that her thesis is special... and leave it at that.
- jordigh 9y ago
  > Would it be any easier to understand if you substituted "white men" with "jews"? No, because Jews aren't an overwhelming majority of people taking up space in universities. Think of something else. There's lots of traffic on the road. Can we blame any individual driver for the traffic? No. Each is a happy little individual doing the best they can, and how could they have known that every other individual would have wanted to drive that day. But all of those individuals, following their own little selfish goals are what constitute traffic. In order to reduce traffic, they should get off the road and not drive. Walk, take a bike, whatever. Let's go back away from this somewhat tortured analogy. If white men are not responsible for filling up the overwhelming majority of mathematician positions with white men, then who is? Going back to her thesis, it's really odd to me how emotional you get over this and can't separate the thesis from the blog post.
  - SidiousL 9y ago
    No, because Jews aren't an overwhelming majority of people taking up space in universities. I think you'll find that they are overrepresented. How did that come about? And to turn your question back at you: if jews are not responsible for their over-representation in academia, then who is? How about this? Should all the black NBA players (which is most of them) should resign too and make room for white people? Clearly they are responsible for keeping all the white men out. I could go on forever. Going back to her thesis, it's really odd to me how emotional you get over this and can't separate the thesis from the blog post. Sorry, I can not separate work from the author.
    - jordigh 9y ago
      > if jews are not responsible for their over-representation in academia, then who is? Jews are responsible for their overrepresentation in academia! There's a lot of cultural factors that drive Jews to academia. Scholarship and hard work has always been valued in Jewish culture, traditionally focussed on studying the Torah, but also spread out to any other enterprise. Jewish folklore has many scholarly role models, traditionally in the form of a rabbi and more modernly as scientists. > Should all the black NBA players (which is most of them) should resign too and make room for white people? Maybe they should! And try to become profs instead! The same racist factors that drive black people out of academia drives them into sports instead. The culturally accepted avenue of success for them is sports, not scholarship.

SidiousL 9y ago

It is racist and misandrist because it singles out _all_ white men. I don't know how I can make this any clearer. Would it be any easier to understand if you substituted "white men" with "jews"? And by the way, in what way are _all_ of them part of the problem? And how does she know that? Does she know all of them? How should I call somebody who unapologetically makes disparaging and hateful statements about whole groups of a people? The link with her thesis is that she wrote it. And by the way, let me just say that her thesis is special... and leave it at that.

jordigh 9y ago
> Would it be any easier to understand if you substituted "white men" with "jews"? No, because Jews aren't an overwhelming majority of people taking up space in universities. Think of something else. There's lots of traffic on the road. Can we blame any individual driver for the traffic? No. Each is a happy little individual doing the best they can, and how could they have known that every other individual would have wanted to drive that day. But all of those individuals, following their own little selfish goals are what constitute traffic. In order to reduce traffic, they should get off the road and not drive. Walk, take a bike, whatever. Let's go back away from this somewhat tortured analogy. If white men are not responsible for filling up the overwhelming majority of mathematician positions with white men, then who is? Going back to her thesis, it's really odd to me how emotional you get over this and can't separate the thesis from the blog post.
- SidiousL 9y ago
  No, because Jews aren't an overwhelming majority of people taking up space in universities. I think you'll find that they are overrepresented. How did that come about? And to turn your question back at you: if jews are not responsible for their over-representation in academia, then who is? How about this? Should all the black NBA players (which is most of them) should resign too and make room for white people? Clearly they are responsible for keeping all the white men out. I could go on forever. Going back to her thesis, it's really odd to me how emotional you get over this and can't separate the thesis from the blog post. Sorry, I can not separate work from the author.
  - jordigh 9y ago
    > if jews are not responsible for their over-representation in academia, then who is? Jews are responsible for their overrepresentation in academia! There's a lot of cultural factors that drive Jews to academia. Scholarship and hard work has always been valued in Jewish culture, traditionally focussed on studying the Torah, but also spread out to any other enterprise. Jewish folklore has many scholarly role models, traditionally in the form of a rabbi and more modernly as scientists. > Should all the black NBA players (which is most of them) should resign too and make room for white people? Maybe they should! And try to become profs instead! The same racist factors that drive black people out of academia drives them into sports instead. The culturally accepted avenue of success for them is sports, not scholarship.