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Let's be fair. Intel did more to end Intel's reign than any other company.

doe88 9y ago
This. Strategic misteps, in mobile the most glaring one, plus I'm not sure how, but it seems that the main foundries (TSMC, Global Foundries, Samsung) have all almost caught-up on Intel. I also think this is what have permitted AMD to produce an outstanding new processor.
- arcanus 9y ago
  > plus I'm not sure how, but it seems that the main foundries (TSMC, Global Foundries, Samsung) have all almost caught-up on Intel This is in part because of Physics getting in the way. Moores law is dying, because the Physics of shrinking transistors further is getting harder and harder
  - Shikadi 9y ago
    Also, many people don't realize that Intel doesn't make their manufacturing equipment. They work closely with the companies that do, and provide them research and have exclusive deals, but tsmc and Samsung probably buy the same brand fab equipment. Factory construction and such matters a lot too though, Intel closed a plant in new Mexico recently, and the yields were likely lower due to a difference in elevation
ksec 9y ago
Intel acquisitions: McAfee - Why? Havok - Why? Infineon Technologies - ............. Altera - Make Sense but not proving anything ( yet ) Mobileye - Make Sense but they needed to prove they can complete under Intel ( They were doing fine before being acquired ) SSD Contoller - For a specific range of uses ( QD1 )in DC, otherwise no longer competitive. Baseband Modem, 7 years since acquiring Infineon, their modem is still fabbed on TSMC! They could have worked with Apple on Fabbing their SoC, they had the past 3 - 4 years to decide and make the move. Now Apple is pretty much all the way with TSMC till 2019. Where is Knight Corner / Landing / Hill? May be they are on the market somewhere, but is Nvidia out numbering them 20:1? Or even more? May be they will milk the x86 for Desktop and Server for as long as they could. But Zen is coming, they have no growth area, what's next?
- eonwe 9y ago
  McAfee at least seemed to me like Intel executives didn't know what to do with the money they had, but didn't want to return it to the shareholders. Instead it was burnt on a company in dying industry selling bad products.
  - ksec 9y ago
    Well, they could have turned it into a half decent product. Instead it lets it limp along while Symantec continues to improve. P.S - Sorry lots of spelling mistake in the original post.
- rasz 9y ago
  Just like Google, its hard to come up with something new profitable when you are fat and lazy on your gold lying goose.
- ac29 9y ago
  > Where is Knight Corner / Landing / Hill? May be they are on the market somewhere, but is Nvidia out numbering them 20:1? Or even more? Take a look at the Top500 list of computers [0]. Of the top 10, 3 have Xeon Phi coprocessors (aka Knights Corner/Landing, Knights Hill hasn't been released, nor has any 10nm Intel processor), 2 have Nvidia coprocessors. [0] https://www.top500.org/ https://www.top500.org/

This. Strategic misteps, in mobile the most glaring one, plus I'm not sure how, but it seems that the main foundries (TSMC, Global Foundries, Samsung) have all almost caught-up on Intel. I also think this is what have permitted AMD to produce an outstanding new processor.

arcanus 9y ago
> plus I'm not sure how, but it seems that the main foundries (TSMC, Global Foundries, Samsung) have all almost caught-up on Intel This is in part because of Physics getting in the way. Moores law is dying, because the Physics of shrinking transistors further is getting harder and harder
- Shikadi 9y ago
  Also, many people don't realize that Intel doesn't make their manufacturing equipment. They work closely with the companies that do, and provide them research and have exclusive deals, but tsmc and Samsung probably buy the same brand fab equipment. Factory construction and such matters a lot too though, Intel closed a plant in new Mexico recently, and the yields were likely lower due to a difference in elevation

ksec 9y ago

Intel acquisitions: McAfee - Why? Havok - Why? Infineon Technologies - ............. Altera - Make Sense but not proving anything ( yet ) Mobileye - Make Sense but they needed to prove they can complete under Intel ( They were doing fine before being acquired ) SSD Contoller - For a specific range of uses ( QD1 )in DC, otherwise no longer competitive. Baseband Modem, 7 years since acquiring Infineon, their modem is still fabbed on TSMC! They could have worked with Apple on Fabbing their SoC, they had the past 3 - 4 years to decide and make the move. Now Apple is pretty much all the way with TSMC till 2019. Where is Knight Corner / Landing / Hill? May be they are on the market somewhere, but is Nvidia out numbering them 20:1? Or even more? May be they will milk the x86 for Desktop and Server for as long as they could. But Zen is coming, they have no growth area, what's next?

eonwe 9y ago
McAfee at least seemed to me like Intel executives didn't know what to do with the money they had, but didn't want to return it to the shareholders. Instead it was burnt on a company in dying industry selling bad products.
- ksec 9y ago
  Well, they could have turned it into a half decent product. Instead it lets it limp along while Symantec continues to improve. P.S - Sorry lots of spelling mistake in the original post.
rasz 9y ago
Just like Google, its hard to come up with something new profitable when you are fat and lazy on your gold lying goose.
ac29 9y ago
> Where is Knight Corner / Landing / Hill? May be they are on the market somewhere, but is Nvidia out numbering them 20:1? Or even more? Take a look at the Top500 list of computers [0]. Of the top 10, 3 have Xeon Phi coprocessors (aka Knights Corner/Landing, Knights Hill hasn't been released, nor has any 10nm Intel processor), 2 have Nvidia coprocessors. [0] https://www.top500.org/ https://www.top500.org/