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I was like, hot damn, cheap housing and good paying jobs, I'm moving to Baltimore!!

ynniv 9y ago
You could legitimately say similar things about Atlanta though.
jdavis703 9y ago
Well you could move to Baltimore and take the MARC train into your DC tech job if cheap housing is what you're optimizing for.
- cakedoggie 9y ago
  Cheap housing and long travel times are not enviable at all.
  - flukus 9y ago
    As far as long travel times go, trains can be good because you can take your laptop and it's usable time to work on your own projects, watch a movie, play games etc. I'd be more concerned (with zero knowledge of washington) over whether or not the train + connections would take me near most of the tech jobs.
    - j7ake 9y ago
      There is a cost to having to commute more than an hour to work compared to living 5 minutes to work by walk. Once you try the difference you won't go back unless there are serious economic differences between the two choices.
      - throwanem 9y ago
        An hour commute by foot and train is not at all the same animal as an hour by car. Only the latter is wasted.
        closeparen 9y ago
        The options available when standing on a train (podcasts) are about the same as driving (radio). If you're talking about a train with 1:1 or better seats per passenger, though, sure. I've had an hour-long walking and train commute for the last year, and by the end was extremely burnt out. Moved to a smaller and more expensive place in the city with a 15 minute bike ride and couldn't be happier.
      - camiller 9y ago
        Read this article the other day. Makes my 25 min commute seem like a cakewalk. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/realestate/extreme-commuting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/realestate/extreme-commut...
    - throwanem 9y ago
      MARC gets you to the DC metro, and the DC metro gets you to the places where you'd likely be working. You might walk as much as half a mile or a mile from your stop if you're somewhere unusually far-flung, but that's not too likely in the first place and, assuming a modicum of fitness, hardly a problem in any case.
    - vonmoltke 9y ago
      > As far as long travel times go, trains can be good because you can take your laptop and it's usable time to work on your own projects, watch a movie, play games etc. Can be, but often aren't. The trains in the three busiest commuter rail lines are not really conducive to laptop use if you are my height (6'4") because of the seat pitch. I have tried to use my XPS 13 on NJTransit trains, but I need to hope I get a row to myself so I can slant sideways to actually get my laptop at a usable angle.
throwanem 9y ago
You know they censored two-thirds of The Wire because it was too gruesome and horrifying for TV? Those were the parts that accurately depicted what living in my town is like. I personally had half a leg gnawed off by rats in my first week here - and that puts me well ahead of the curve! It's a terrible and terrifying place and you'll be much better off if you stay away. (Seriously, though, hit me up via my HN profile if you're interested in getting a sense of what the industry and life in general are like here - it's a great town that's been very good to me, and I'm always happy to talk about it!)
- liveoneggs 9y ago
  you've got John Waters so you're already ahead of the game
  - throwanem 9y ago
    I mean I don't, and no wonder. But we do, sure. He's a treasure.
- frandroid 9y ago
  I have some friends there, it seems livable :) But I'm in Canada so I'm not seeking U.S. employment "in these turbulent times", if you know what I mean. 8) Thanks for the offer though!
  - throwanem 9y ago
    Hey, you do you. And, sure, any time!
chrshawkes 9y ago
Baltimore is on pace for record murders this year. It's a great place for tech startups.

You could legitimately say similar things about Atlanta though.

Well you could move to Baltimore and take the MARC train into your DC tech job if cheap housing is what you're optimizing for.

cakedoggie 9y ago
Cheap housing and long travel times are not enviable at all.
- flukus 9y ago
  As far as long travel times go, trains can be good because you can take your laptop and it's usable time to work on your own projects, watch a movie, play games etc. I'd be more concerned (with zero knowledge of washington) over whether or not the train + connections would take me near most of the tech jobs.
  - j7ake 9y ago
    There is a cost to having to commute more than an hour to work compared to living 5 minutes to work by walk. Once you try the difference you won't go back unless there are serious economic differences between the two choices.
    - throwanem 9y ago
      An hour commute by foot and train is not at all the same animal as an hour by car. Only the latter is wasted.
      - closeparen 9y ago
        The options available when standing on a train (podcasts) are about the same as driving (radio). If you're talking about a train with 1:1 or better seats per passenger, though, sure. I've had an hour-long walking and train commute for the last year, and by the end was extremely burnt out. Moved to a smaller and more expensive place in the city with a 15 minute bike ride and couldn't be happier.
    - camiller 9y ago
      Read this article the other day. Makes my 25 min commute seem like a cakewalk. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/realestate/extreme-commuting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/realestate/extreme-commut...
  - throwanem 9y ago
    MARC gets you to the DC metro, and the DC metro gets you to the places where you'd likely be working. You might walk as much as half a mile or a mile from your stop if you're somewhere unusually far-flung, but that's not too likely in the first place and, assuming a modicum of fitness, hardly a problem in any case.
  - vonmoltke 9y ago
    > As far as long travel times go, trains can be good because you can take your laptop and it's usable time to work on your own projects, watch a movie, play games etc. Can be, but often aren't. The trains in the three busiest commuter rail lines are not really conducive to laptop use if you are my height (6'4") because of the seat pitch. I have tried to use my XPS 13 on NJTransit trains, but I need to hope I get a row to myself so I can slant sideways to actually get my laptop at a usable angle.

throwanem 9y ago

You know they censored two-thirds of The Wire because it was too gruesome and horrifying for TV? Those were the parts that accurately depicted what living in my town is like. I personally had half a leg gnawed off by rats in my first week here - and that puts me well ahead of the curve! It's a terrible and terrifying place and you'll be much better off if you stay away. (Seriously, though, hit me up via my HN profile if you're interested in getting a sense of what the industry and life in general are like here - it's a great town that's been very good to me, and I'm always happy to talk about it!)

liveoneggs 9y ago
you've got John Waters so you're already ahead of the game
- throwanem 9y ago
  I mean I don't, and no wonder. But we do, sure. He's a treasure.
frandroid 9y ago
I have some friends there, it seems livable :) But I'm in Canada so I'm not seeking U.S. employment "in these turbulent times", if you know what I mean. 8) Thanks for the offer though!
- throwanem 9y ago
  Hey, you do you. And, sure, any time!

chrshawkes 9y ago

Baltimore is on pace for record murders this year. It's a great place for tech startups.