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About the easiest system to defeat ever. Guess or obtain any working code, cover the iPad camera with your finger, and clean out the entire mailroom. You need

About the easiest system to defeat ever. Guess or obtain any working code, cover the iPad camera with your finger, and clean out the entire mailroom. You need to live in a very secure building with trustworthy neighbors for this to be viable. Then again, we have no signature required, and regularly have packages sitting on our front porch for a day or so and haven't had anything go missing.

pluma 9y ago
What is it with HN commenters living in these crime-ridden dens where everyone steals everyone's packages? Maybe it's a cultural thing but I've lived in apartment buildings in Germany with neighbors from all walks of life and unless a package has literally "$$$ EXPENSIVE GOODS THAT ARE EASY TO SELL $$$" written all over it, I wouldn't for a second worry about a neighbor stealing it. Maybe your standards for "very secure" and "trustworthy" are extremely low.
- chris_7 9y ago
  Yeah, I had something delivered the day after I went on vacation and it just sat in the entrance for a few weeks, then I took it upstairs when I got home. This is in Brooklyn FWIW.
  - vdnkh 9y ago
    I live in Manhattan and packages regularly get stolen from the hallway, behind the locked entrance doorway. Either we have thieves, or residents naively hold the door for thieves. Or bike deliverymen are thieves.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  I've lived in two large apartment buildings in New York. The first one, if a package was dropped off in the lobby, the driver might as well deliver it directly into the garbage. I usually got things shipped to work, even if they were large and a hassle to get home. The second one, our current one, all of the neighbors completely trust each other, and it's never been an issue. I ship most things home, now. The difference is partially neighborhood (low-rent Brooklyn vs. Upper West Side), partially building size (200 units vs. 20), and partially who lives there (renters and month-to-monthers, vs. mostly condo owners.)

pluma 9y ago

What is it with HN commenters living in these crime-ridden dens where everyone steals everyone's packages? Maybe it's a cultural thing but I've lived in apartment buildings in Germany with neighbors from all walks of life and unless a package has literally "$$$ EXPENSIVE GOODS THAT ARE EASY TO SELL $$$" written all over it, I wouldn't for a second worry about a neighbor stealing it. Maybe your standards for "very secure" and "trustworthy" are extremely low.

chris_7 9y ago
Yeah, I had something delivered the day after I went on vacation and it just sat in the entrance for a few weeks, then I took it upstairs when I got home. This is in Brooklyn FWIW.
- vdnkh 9y ago
  I live in Manhattan and packages regularly get stolen from the hallway, behind the locked entrance doorway. Either we have thieves, or residents naively hold the door for thieves. Or bike deliverymen are thieves.
pavel_lishin 9y ago
I've lived in two large apartment buildings in New York. The first one, if a package was dropped off in the lobby, the driver might as well deliver it directly into the garbage. I usually got things shipped to work, even if they were large and a hassle to get home. The second one, our current one, all of the neighbors completely trust each other, and it's never been an issue. I ship most things home, now. The difference is partially neighborhood (low-rent Brooklyn vs. Upper West Side), partially building size (200 units vs. 20), and partially who lives there (renters and month-to-monthers, vs. mostly condo owners.)