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I think it's much better to tax the cars you don't want rather than to subsidize the cars you do want. Why? Because the state is not doing well financially, an

I think it's much better to tax the cars you don't want rather than to subsidize the cars you do want. Why? Because the state is not doing well financially, and they are not in the place to drop 3 billion on subsidies. I think it also makes more sense from a moral standpoint. If using a gasoline powered car contributes more to the environment's woes, paying the tax is giving back to society in return for having made it a slightly worse place via pollution. It is also better to directly tax the undesirable car that way the tax is directly associated with the undesirable car, as opposed to a general income tax. This may be less politically feasible for that reason though.

panarky 9y ago
> the state is not doing well financially California's budget is running a surplus http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/budget/2017-18MR/#/Home http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/budget/2017-18MR/#/Home Unemployment rate is 4.9% http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/countyur-400c.pdf http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/countyur-... Job growth in California is ranked #10 in US http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/business/T019-S010-states-with-the-fastest-job-growth-in-2016/index.html http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/business/T019-S010-states... California's economy 'growing a hell of a lot faster' than Texas http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/ http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/...
anon4728 9y ago
> Because the state is not doing well financially, and they are not in the place to drop 3 billion on subsidies. Pure, gluten-free FUD. I don't know what libertarian propaganda you're smoking :), but California's GDP is $2.6 trillion with a 3% growth rate.
bassman9000 9y ago
let's compare apples to apples http://archive.is/DCWp1 http://archive.is/DCWp1 are we sure Tesla's are better for the env? Don't get me wrong, I want an alternative to gas. But let's make fair comparisons.
- candiodari 9y ago
  Subsidize toys for the rich ? With a good story about why it's saving the planet ? This is like claiming parks in big cities are good for the environment. Well they are. For about 2 blocks or so. And especially good for the house values around there. Which is of course the real reason they're built. You're acting as if the purpose of environmental policy is to rescue the planet, and there's your mistake. Giving free money to rich people with lots of influence is the only factor in those decisions. If you check, you'll find that all of Elon Musk's companies after paypal share this characteristic. They are barely working at all, and there's no way in hell they'd work without this free money. So really, this is about transfering your taxes to Elon Musk's company so mostly him, and of course quite a few rich people can get free money and tell a story to themselves about the environment.

panarky 9y ago

> the state is not doing well financially California's budget is running a surplus http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/budget/2017-18MR/#/Home http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/budget/2017-18MR/#/Home Unemployment rate is 4.9% http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/countyur-400c.pdf http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/file/lfmonth/countyur-... Job growth in California is ranked #10 in US http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/business/T019-S010-states-with-the-fastest-job-growth-in-2016/index.html http://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/business/T019-S010-states... California's economy 'growing a hell of a lot faster' than Texas http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/jerry-brown/are-jobs-california-growing-hell-lot-faster-texas/ http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/dec/19/...

anon4728 9y ago

> Because the state is not doing well financially, and they are not in the place to drop 3 billion on subsidies. Pure, gluten-free FUD. I don't know what libertarian propaganda you're smoking :), but California's GDP is $2.6 trillion with a 3% growth rate.

bassman9000 9y ago

let's compare apples to apples http://archive.is/DCWp1 http://archive.is/DCWp1 are we sure Tesla's are better for the env? Don't get me wrong, I want an alternative to gas. But let's make fair comparisons.

candiodari 9y ago
Subsidize toys for the rich ? With a good story about why it's saving the planet ? This is like claiming parks in big cities are good for the environment. Well they are. For about 2 blocks or so. And especially good for the house values around there. Which is of course the real reason they're built. You're acting as if the purpose of environmental policy is to rescue the planet, and there's your mistake. Giving free money to rich people with lots of influence is the only factor in those decisions. If you check, you'll find that all of Elon Musk's companies after paypal share this characteristic. They are barely working at all, and there's no way in hell they'd work without this free money. So really, this is about transfering your taxes to Elon Musk's company so mostly him, and of course quite a few rich people can get free money and tell a story to themselves about the environment.