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Lol, really? Tell that to software engineers past the age of 50. Look, every industry has its pros and cons. Sure tech is good for the Burning Man crowd (if y

Lol, really? Tell that to software engineers past the age of 50. Look, every industry has its pros and cons. Sure tech is good for the Burning Man crowd (if you live in the Bay Area or other major American liberal city), but it certainly suffers from a ton of ageism, among other maladies. I think it all comes down to what sort of industry you personally feel more comfortable in. For me, that's tech, but if my conservative Christian grandmother were alive today she sure as heck wouldn't be comfortable in the Bay Area tech scene. Whenever you find yourself patting yourself on your back for being inclusive, just do the math - is your group really inclusive or is it just symbolically signifying inclusiveness?

com2kid 9y ago
> Tell that to software engineers past the age of 50. Come work at a BigCorp. Here at Microsoft, every age range is represented, W/L balance is great (people supporting online services who are responsible for The Phone that week aside), and every team I have been on strives for diversity and inclusion. That said, is it a pure meritocracy? Of course not, people who play politics and are good at getting assigned to high visibility projects get promoted faster. But good work is rewarded, and people are generally quite happy. Edit: The food isn't free, but the on campus medical clinic, summer farmers market, and other tiny perks that come from having a huge and expansive campus set amongst what looks like woodlands, more than balances it out. And, regardless of gender, no one will bat an eye if you go at 4:00pm to pick up your kids.
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  x2 BigCorps also have stability which "old" people need to support their families, especially when the kids are going to college.
  - sqeaky 9y ago
    x3+ I have contracted with numerous companies with old engineers. Insurance, Embedded Appliances and Defense had a reasonable distribution ages.
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civilian 9y ago
You're right, politics & age are major caveats. As someone who voted for Gary Johnson and laughed when Clinton lost, I definitely feel the lack of inclusion at times.

com2kid 9y ago

> Tell that to software engineers past the age of 50. Come work at a BigCorp. Here at Microsoft, every age range is represented, W/L balance is great (people supporting online services who are responsible for The Phone that week aside), and every team I have been on strives for diversity and inclusion. That said, is it a pure meritocracy? Of course not, people who play politics and are good at getting assigned to high visibility projects get promoted faster. But good work is rewarded, and people are generally quite happy. Edit: The food isn't free, but the on campus medical clinic, summer farmers market, and other tiny perks that come from having a huge and expansive campus set amongst what looks like woodlands, more than balances it out. And, regardless of gender, no one will bat an eye if you go at 4:00pm to pick up your kids.

dsfyu404ed 9y ago
x2 BigCorps also have stability which "old" people need to support their families, especially when the kids are going to college.
- sqeaky 9y ago
  x3+ I have contracted with numerous companies with old engineers. Insurance, Embedded Appliances and Defense had a reasonable distribution ages.

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civilian 9y ago

You're right, politics & age are major caveats. As someone who voted for Gary Johnson and laughed when Clinton lost, I definitely feel the lack of inclusion at times.