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Given that Visual Studio Code is also built on Electron but poses none of the resource issues (in spite of being a much more complex application - ide v/s chat

Given that Visual Studio Code is also built on Electron but poses none of the resource issues (in spite of being a much more complex application - ide v/s chat client), makes me think the problem lies with the application and not the platform

quickthrower2 9y ago
Yes but they probably worked their arses off and spent big bucks to get it to perform. And it's kind of a marketing product: one of Microsoft's catch-up-with-whats-hip initiatives. For the average shop just code native and get that performance for free.
StevePerkins 9y ago
I like VS Code. However, people think it's "light" and "snappy" only because they're comparing it to Atom. IntelliJ feels pretty fast-loading and snappy when you put it head to head against Atom. The reality is that Code takes multiple seconds to launch on my machine (a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM), while GVim or Sublime or any native editor is subsecond. Granted, it does perform well enough once it's up and running. But startup time is probably an order of magnitude worse, and ongoing resource consumption even far less competitive. Code shows that it's possible for a good Electron app to be better than a bad Electron app. But that's not a proof statement that Electron is in the same league is native.
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  > people think it's "light" and "snappy" only because they're comparing it to Atom There's some truth to this, but I also prefer it to (my previous workhorse) Sublime. Which is a 100% native app, unlike Atom. > The reality is that Code takes multiple seconds to launch on my machine (a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM) Something is wrong there, it really shouldn't. 1 second, maybe, if you're loading a large complex folder or something but unless you've got a crap ton of extensions I've never seen it be that slow.
  - reificator 9y ago
    And aren't most extensions lazy loaded anyway?
    - abritinthebay 9y ago
      No idea but that would make sense.
int_19h 9y ago
It poses its own resource issues. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13940014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13940014

quickthrower2 9y ago

Yes but they probably worked their arses off and spent big bucks to get it to perform. And it's kind of a marketing product: one of Microsoft's catch-up-with-whats-hip initiatives. For the average shop just code native and get that performance for free.

StevePerkins 9y ago

I like VS Code. However, people think it's "light" and "snappy" only because they're comparing it to Atom. IntelliJ feels pretty fast-loading and snappy when you put it head to head against Atom. The reality is that Code takes multiple seconds to launch on my machine (a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM), while GVim or Sublime or any native editor is subsecond. Granted, it does perform well enough once it's up and running. But startup time is probably an order of magnitude worse, and ongoing resource consumption even far less competitive. Code shows that it's possible for a good Electron app to be better than a bad Electron app. But that's not a proof statement that Electron is in the same league is native.

abritinthebay 9y ago
> people think it's "light" and "snappy" only because they're comparing it to Atom There's some truth to this, but I also prefer it to (my previous workhorse) Sublime. Which is a 100% native app, unlike Atom. > The reality is that Code takes multiple seconds to launch on my machine (a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM) Something is wrong there, it really shouldn't. 1 second, maybe, if you're loading a large complex folder or something but unless you've got a crap ton of extensions I've never seen it be that slow.
- reificator 9y ago
  And aren't most extensions lazy loaded anyway?
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    No idea but that would make sense.

int_19h 9y ago

It poses its own resource issues. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13940014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13940014