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I choose to attack those developers because they're taking an easy path knowing that it will end up in a bad product, yet they still do it. At the end of the d

I choose to attack those developers because they're taking an easy path knowing that it will end up in a bad product, yet they still do it. At the end of the day I don't care which technology is used as long as the end product is good, however a chat client that uses 1,5GB of memory is the total opposite of good. Come on, it's a f'ing chat client - a solved problem and existing implementations (look at any IRC client) take like 100MB's max. I would have no problems with Electron if they somehow managed to get the resource usage similar to a native app.

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npizzolato 9y ago
Perhaps the attitude of measuring the good-ness of a chat client solely on how much memory it uses is one of the main contributors to the rise in popularity of Slack and the decline in popularity of IRC. I personally don't care if my chat client uses more ram than its competitors if it's easier to use. Judging by the amount of people using Slack, I don't think I'm alone.
kelnage 9y ago
If its a "solved problem" then why aren't users flocking to IRC over Slack? The answer is likely multifaceted, but part of it is undoubtedly the usability of the client - which may be resource intensive, but that was likely a trade off for speed/ease of development.
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
  Marketing? IRC's not sexy like Slack is. Realistically, it's going to take what, 10 extra minutes for a dev to get IRC down versus Slack?
- rhizome 9y ago
  NIH Syndrome. You can't make a walled garden out of IRC.
  - cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
    Why can't you? You just don't connect your IRC server to any other server.
    - rhizome 9y ago
      True, so maybe they're also hoping for patents or other ancillary NIH benefit.
- omaranto 9y ago
  Why would people flock from Slack to IRC? IRC is much older, it's probably more like people sticking with IRC and not trying Slack. Which presumably is happening in large numbers.

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npizzolato 9y ago

Perhaps the attitude of measuring the good-ness of a chat client solely on how much memory it uses is one of the main contributors to the rise in popularity of Slack and the decline in popularity of IRC. I personally don't care if my chat client uses more ram than its competitors if it's easier to use. Judging by the amount of people using Slack, I don't think I'm alone.

kelnage 9y ago

If its a "solved problem" then why aren't users flocking to IRC over Slack? The answer is likely multifaceted, but part of it is undoubtedly the usability of the client - which may be resource intensive, but that was likely a trade off for speed/ease of development.

frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago
Marketing? IRC's not sexy like Slack is. Realistically, it's going to take what, 10 extra minutes for a dev to get IRC down versus Slack?
rhizome 9y ago
NIH Syndrome. You can't make a walled garden out of IRC.
- cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
  Why can't you? You just don't connect your IRC server to any other server.
  - rhizome 9y ago
    True, so maybe they're also hoping for patents or other ancillary NIH benefit.
omaranto 9y ago
Why would people flock from Slack to IRC? IRC is much older, it's probably more like people sticking with IRC and not trying Slack. Which presumably is happening in large numbers.