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Every time I see a story like this, I am honestly wondering where all these people are working, as I have never encountered anyone near these levels of sexism i

by zapt02 9y ago

Every time I see a story like this, I am honestly wondering where all these people are working, as I have never encountered anyone near these levels of sexism in many years of working in the tech industry (albeit in Sweden). What rubs me the wrong way though is when people project experiences like these onto their own experiences of lesser magnitude. For example, a while back a colleague asked me for a sit-down and explained that she was frustrated that i had "mansplained" her in a meeting. She was fuming. At worst, I might have interrupted her at one point or two inadvertently because there was a heated discussion on a technical topic. I don't want to rob her of these feelings but I feel like overall we're talking about some actual sexist idiots and then have a much larger layer of people who are just looking to be mad about something.

gorkonsine 9y ago
>I have never encountered anyone near these levels of sexism in many years of working in the tech industry (albeit in Sweden). Nor have I, albeit in the US (even in the parts that are Trump-land). You're European, so maybe you know more about French culture than me: is this something that's endemic to French culture perhaps? Over here in the US, I would be shocked to hear about this crap in any place other than one run by a bunch of 25-year-old frat bros.
- zapt02 9y ago
  This type of thing exists, there's even a saying for it in swedish - "grabbig stämning" (loosely translated: "frat-house feeling"). But the last time I remember someone behaving like this was when I was just starting university, at around 19-20 yo, and even then that was just stuff between guys, never to a girl. We are very conscious of how we talk in sweden, and nobody would drop a comment vaguely similar to the ones mentioned above, unless they really hate their job and want to get fired.
- gorkonsine 9y ago
  After all the massive down-voting I'm getting now, and all the pro-dick-joke comments, I've changed my opinion. Apparently American tech workers (esp. Silicon Valley ones, since they dominate the readership here) really are a bunch of sexist pigs. TIL. I didn't realize I was hanging out with such a bunch of low-lifes. Honestly, between the frat-boy behavior of techies, and the open-plan offices, I really wish I had gone into the legal field instead. My girlfriend in legal has a wonderful (and quiet) office, and never has any problem with misogyny or blatantly crude and unprofessional behavior at work. The tech industry has really turned into garbage in the past couple of decades.

by zapt02 9y ago

gorkonsine 9y ago

>I have never encountered anyone near these levels of sexism in many years of working in the tech industry (albeit in Sweden). Nor have I, albeit in the US (even in the parts that are Trump-land). You're European, so maybe you know more about French culture than me: is this something that's endemic to French culture perhaps? Over here in the US, I would be shocked to hear about this crap in any place other than one run by a bunch of 25-year-old frat bros.

zapt02 9y ago
This type of thing exists, there's even a saying for it in swedish - "grabbig stämning" (loosely translated: "frat-house feeling"). But the last time I remember someone behaving like this was when I was just starting university, at around 19-20 yo, and even then that was just stuff between guys, never to a girl. We are very conscious of how we talk in sweden, and nobody would drop a comment vaguely similar to the ones mentioned above, unless they really hate their job and want to get fired.
gorkonsine 9y ago
After all the massive down-voting I'm getting now, and all the pro-dick-joke comments, I've changed my opinion. Apparently American tech workers (esp. Silicon Valley ones, since they dominate the readership here) really are a bunch of sexist pigs. TIL. I didn't realize I was hanging out with such a bunch of low-lifes. Honestly, between the frat-boy behavior of techies, and the open-plan offices, I really wish I had gone into the legal field instead. My girlfriend in legal has a wonderful (and quiet) office, and never has any problem with misogyny or blatantly crude and unprofessional behavior at work. The tech industry has really turned into garbage in the past couple of decades.