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Obviously this is over the line and totally unprofessional conduct by those mentioned in the story. Can anyone come up with a story or things that could be tak

by howeyc 9y ago

Obviously this is over the line and totally unprofessional conduct by those mentioned in the story. Can anyone come up with a story or things that could be taken as sexist towards a male? I have a hard time knowing if I'm right in that I think I'd be fine with this as I don't take this extremely juvenile crap as seriously or if I'm just really having a hard time being empathetic because I just have never, nor can I fathom, anything rocking my sense of worth so hard. Maybe I need to experience being marginalized due to my sex or race or whatever to be empathetic? I dunno. I'm sure there's more to it that can cause someone to break down like the person who wrote this. I want to understand. Do I need a bunch of women to joke about guys with small dicks are worthless or something? Is that comparable? Should I be extremely offended and be willing to quit over that, like the world is against me because of it? I'm honestly wondering here. Please help me understand. I'm serious. I just don't know what it's like.

cjbprime 9y ago
As your comment wrestles with, you can't know what it's like, because you don't live under a systemic power imbalance. The fact that words aren't going to hurt you as much because they aren't coming from an environment of actual systemic discrimination doesn't mean that the people who are hurt by words under discrimination are wrong or irrational. It just means it's a thing you don't get to experience first-hand and should attempt to have empathy for nonetheless.
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burkaman 9y ago
> I think I'd be fine with this as I don't take this extremely juvenile crap as seriously Do you think her coworkers were only like this in casual conversations and social situations, and treated her as a complete equal professionally? Or do you think their attitudes might have affected how they viewed her work, what she was assigned, her opportunities for advancement, etc. It doesn't matter if you "take it seriously" or not when people who have power over you are doing this. It's not about being offended, it's about being unequal.

by howeyc 9y ago

cjbprime 9y ago

As your comment wrestles with, you can't know what it's like, because you don't live under a systemic power imbalance. The fact that words aren't going to hurt you as much because they aren't coming from an environment of actual systemic discrimination doesn't mean that the people who are hurt by words under discrimination are wrong or irrational. It just means it's a thing you don't get to experience first-hand and should attempt to have empathy for nonetheless.

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burkaman 9y ago

> I think I'd be fine with this as I don't take this extremely juvenile crap as seriously Do you think her coworkers were only like this in casual conversations and social situations, and treated her as a complete equal professionally? Or do you think their attitudes might have affected how they viewed her work, what she was assigned, her opportunities for advancement, etc. It doesn't matter if you "take it seriously" or not when people who have power over you are doing this. It's not about being offended, it's about being unequal.