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As I said, desktop Safari allows websites to prompt me for push notifications. I can't stand it: that a web site has the ability to display a modal prompt shee

As I said, desktop Safari allows websites to prompt me for push notifications. I can't stand it: that a web site has the ability to display a modal prompt sheet that I have to cancel.

fredley 9y ago
It's not modal (like `alert`), it doesn't steal focus, at least not on any browser I've used.
marpstar 9y ago
This isn't new. Desktop browsers have been showing modal prompts via the javascript `prompt()` method for quite some time.
- falcolas 9y ago
  It's not coincidental that the ability to do so has been actively limited by so many browsers (with opt-out forever options in some cases).
- santaclaus 9y ago
  > This isn't new. Just because it is old doesn't make it a good user experience.
jasonlotito 9y ago
Disable it. It's a feature some people like and use. I like getting notifications from some services I use without needing to keep a browser window open on that page to get notified. And I like not having to download and install yet another flipping app to get that feature.
- Spivak 9y ago
  I cant imagine a service that you frequent enough to want push notifications but not enough that you would be willing to install a native app for a smoother experience.
  - jdauriemma 9y ago
    One where the developer does not have enough resources to develop for and support multiple platforms?
    - Spivak 9y ago
      Right, but the parent's argument is that web notifications are a way to avoid installing a native app.
      - jasonlotito 9y ago
        My argument is not limited to some thin line you define. Please don't speak for me or put words in my mouth that are not true.
    - jasonlotito 9y ago
      You get it.
  - fenomas 9y ago
    > I cant imagine a service that you frequent enough to want push notifications but not enough that you would be willing to install a native app for a smoother experience. Um. Email?
  - jasonlotito 9y ago
    Installing an app is not a smoother experience. Allowing notifications is one click. Also, apps don't always have the same features as websites. You also make the assumption that services I use with browser notifications also have apps. This is not true in the slightest. And in some cases, I still prefer the website over an app. How is it hard to imagine a service I don't frequent use but when I do, I want notifications? I use these services a few times a year at most. Why would I want to install an app if they have it?
matthewmacleod 9y ago
There's a preference to disable this, though. Don't get me wrong - it's awful and I hate it. But I'm sure there are valid use-cases for people who use e.g. webmail.

As I said, desktop Safari allows websites to prompt me for push notifications. I can't stand it: that a web site has the ability to display a modal prompt sheet that I have to cancel.

fredley 9y ago

It's not modal (like `alert`), it doesn't steal focus, at least not on any browser I've used.

marpstar 9y ago

This isn't new. Desktop browsers have been showing modal prompts via the javascript `prompt()` method for quite some time.

falcolas 9y ago
It's not coincidental that the ability to do so has been actively limited by so many browsers (with opt-out forever options in some cases).
santaclaus 9y ago
> This isn't new. Just because it is old doesn't make it a good user experience.

jasonlotito 9y ago

Disable it. It's a feature some people like and use. I like getting notifications from some services I use without needing to keep a browser window open on that page to get notified. And I like not having to download and install yet another flipping app to get that feature.

Spivak 9y ago
I cant imagine a service that you frequent enough to want push notifications but not enough that you would be willing to install a native app for a smoother experience.
- jdauriemma 9y ago
  One where the developer does not have enough resources to develop for and support multiple platforms?
  - Spivak 9y ago
    Right, but the parent's argument is that web notifications are a way to avoid installing a native app.
    - jasonlotito 9y ago
      My argument is not limited to some thin line you define. Please don't speak for me or put words in my mouth that are not true.
  - jasonlotito 9y ago
    You get it.
- fenomas 9y ago
  > I cant imagine a service that you frequent enough to want push notifications but not enough that you would be willing to install a native app for a smoother experience. Um. Email?
- jasonlotito 9y ago
  Installing an app is not a smoother experience. Allowing notifications is one click. Also, apps don't always have the same features as websites. You also make the assumption that services I use with browser notifications also have apps. This is not true in the slightest. And in some cases, I still prefer the website over an app. How is it hard to imagine a service I don't frequent use but when I do, I want notifications? I use these services a few times a year at most. Why would I want to install an app if they have it?

matthewmacleod 9y ago

There's a preference to disable this, though. Don't get me wrong - it's awful and I hate it. But I'm sure there are valid use-cases for people who use e.g. webmail.