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How would a GUI install help you with your router install? I mean, it's not impossible to create one, but given that routers usually don't have video outputs, t
by bigato 9y ago
How would a GUI install help you with your router install? I mean, it's not impossible to create one, but given that routers usually don't have video outputs, this is a very specific requirement. You won't even install X11 anyway. I'm not aware of any general-purpose OSes that have a GUI for router installs.
Also, maybe you want to review the "GUI is easier than TUI" premise. Clicking per se is not inherently easier than hitting ENTER. And while I'm aware that I'm biased in that regard since OpenBSD is my favourite Unix, I'm honestly not aware of any other OS that's easier to install, GUI or not. You really have to read, understand answer those questions, there's no way around it. At this point, the difference between typing yes/no and ENTER vs clicking is minimal, usability-wise. On the other hand, the additional complexity brought by a GUI is a big burden on developers.
I remember this same discussion years ago on Debian land, when they didn't have a GUI install. Like an email from a random guy stating that if Debian would only fix their install and have a GUI, they would conquer the world. At a certain point, they finally built a GUI install, that was exactly the same questions asked in a GUI that even resembled the TUI. Biggest difference was, you could use your mouse. And eventually have some trouble because the installer wouldn't recognize your video card. In which case you could always fallback to the TUI install, but the question is: were there any usability gains at all by switching to a GUI? My point being, you can improve usability regardless of GUI or TUI.
In OpenBSD, if you are installing several similar machines with the same setup you can also do unattended installs (https://man.openbsd.org/autoinstall https://man.openbsd.org/autoinstall), and that would really make the install easier and simpler. I don't think you were referring to this anyway; but other than that, and putting the fallacious GUI vs TUI aside, I'm not sure how else you could make OpenBSD install much easier. I would be really curious to listen if someone have some specific ideas , and I'm pretty sure OpenBSD devs would also be interested.