Re: the iphone and android points, i completely agree. Android will get there in time and it's a great alternative (before android it was BBos or symbian, yuck

Re: the iphone and android points, i completely agree. Android will get there in time and it's a great alternative (before android it was BBos or symbian, yuck). As far as linux desktop goes, it's more of an OEM problem. Ubuntu is getting really close to being consumer friendly. Even if it WERE 110% consumer friendly, there isn't even one OEM who produces a great linux machine. I'm not talking Dell loading it on one random machine or other guys like system76. Someone needs to step up and be the "apple of ubuntu/linux" (don't charge the high high premium though).