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Humans: still acting like humans, film at 11. It also shouldn't need saying that this is hardly unique to pot. Also, it won't change. How many millennia have b

by _jal 9y ago

Humans: still acting like humans, film at 11. It also shouldn't need saying that this is hardly unique to pot. Also, it won't change. How many millennia have been spent since someone figured out fruit ferments into something that makes you feel good? And yet people continue to slide into alcoholism every day, in every culture. Even the ones where it is illegal. That said, sure, I can see a temporary effect where legal pot is "new" (really, very old, but that's a different discussion), and so trendy, and the media feedback-loop kicks in so certain kinds of parents have something vaguely novel to upset themselves with. We'll be past that in a generation.

thaumasiotes 9y ago
> And yet people continue to slide into alcoholism every day, in every culture. Even the ones where it is illegal. This is a strange thing to "even". You'd expect alcohol to be illegal where it was more of a problem, not where it was less of a problem. In cultures where nobody succumbs to alcoholism, why would alcohol be prohibited?
- _jal 9y ago
  You know, this isn't a question of philosophy. We're not reasoning from first-principles. You might consider looking to the googles for an answer as to which nation-states currently ban alcohol, and then consider what commonalities they might share. I'll save you the first half of that effort: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol_prohibition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol...
  - thaumasiotes 9y ago
    Those are Islamic countries. Do you think there's a reason the prohibition was made? Do you think there might be a reason it stuck? Alcohol is also frequently prohibited on Indian reservations. Why do you think that is?
    - AstralStorm 9y ago
      Middle East countries used to have a huge problem with drinking and later caffeine. somewhere around early Medieval era. It so happens that alcohol ban got written into a religion that grew to be dominant and was even more brutally enforced than the coffee ban. Guess which one stuck.

by _jal 9y ago

thaumasiotes 9y ago

> And yet people continue to slide into alcoholism every day, in every culture. Even the ones where it is illegal. This is a strange thing to "even". You'd expect alcohol to be illegal where it was more of a problem, not where it was less of a problem. In cultures where nobody succumbs to alcoholism, why would alcohol be prohibited?

_jal 9y ago
You know, this isn't a question of philosophy. We're not reasoning from first-principles. You might consider looking to the googles for an answer as to which nation-states currently ban alcohol, and then consider what commonalities they might share. I'll save you the first half of that effort: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol_prohibition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol...
- thaumasiotes 9y ago
  Those are Islamic countries. Do you think there's a reason the prohibition was made? Do you think there might be a reason it stuck? Alcohol is also frequently prohibited on Indian reservations. Why do you think that is?
  - AstralStorm 9y ago
    Middle East countries used to have a huge problem with drinking and later caffeine. somewhere around early Medieval era. It so happens that alcohol ban got written into a religion that grew to be dominant and was even more brutally enforced than the coffee ban. Guess which one stuck.