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Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones

by axod 16y ago

Apple is great on day one since it doesn't actually have many features. I'm loving my Nexus One here, which has just been updated to 2.2 :) Different ringtones (Anything you like) for sms/email/facebook, tethering, portable hotspot! Flash? Simply in a different league than iPhone. The early Android hardware sucked, but the N1 is pretty solid. >> The Android ecosystem doesn’t seem capable of producing devices that are great on day one. Yet Apple consistently pulls it off. IDK, I've heard some things about the iPhone 4... I had an iPhone for 3 years or so. It was a great device for what it did, but the whole hassle of having to use iTunes. No removable storage. Can't just stuff mp3's on it and use as ringtones. Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. It's just a PITA. Not to mention the mass of features that are just lacking on the iPhone but you take for granted on Android.

cageface 16y ago
I had an iPhone for 3 years or so. It was a great device for what it did, but the whole hassle of having to use iTunes. No removable storage. Can't just stuff mp3's on it and use as ringtones. Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. It's just a PITA. Not to mention the mass of features that are just lacking on the iPhone but you take for granted on Android. Exactly. Mobile doesn't mean you can copy your stuff onto something portable. It means you've got a window to your stuff in your pocket. Google's information-centric approach makes a lot more sense than Apple's device-centric approach.
- axod 16y ago
  Yup. And over the air updates are obviously a good idea. I plug my Nexus One into my computer when I want to, not when it needs to be plugged in (Unlike the iPhone). It stands up as a device on its own.
  - nailer 16y ago
    That's what's holding me off on an iPad. Why buy a computer that needs to be plugged into another computer?
- megablast 16y ago
  Makes a lot more sense to everybody, except for the majority of people who still don't quite understand what a folder is. I agree, I like copying over mp3s and photos, finding out what folder they need to go in, if they have filename restrictions, that sort of thing. I have done that for a long time. I understand that, and find it easy. What I have a problem with is people who think that everybody wants it that way. Do you not understand that the majority are not like us, do not understand computers, need point and click interfaces? Why does this always come up?
  - cageface 16y ago
    The only things I have to manually copy over to my Droid are music and video. Everything else (photos, contacts, email, docs) is just cached transparently from the cloud. This seems a lot simpler and more user-friendly to me than forcing a user to physically attach to a computer and worry about duplicates, overwrites, stale files etc. Isn't the whole idea to stop forcing users to think about files? The only reason I have to manually copy music and video is bandwidth so it's likely that at some point in the near future those will also be handled for me.
    - rogermugs 16y ago
      Linux fans always say it’s “getting better”, and there’s always a major distribution update a few months away that’s about to be awesome. But it never is
jodrellblank 16y ago
Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. Plug it in to a windows pc, it appears as a read only drive with your pictures / videos on it for 'just' copying off.
- axod 16y ago
  * I don't have windows * Read only? lame Having a microSD card, and being able to mount it r/w mass storage from anything, is pretty nice. It's irritating that Apple don't recognize things like that.
  - vetinari 16y ago
    It actually uses PTP protocol for transferring photos. Once upon time I was trying to get data out of iPhone, that was paired to iTunes on a harddrive that went into the big bucket in the sky. To my surprise, connecting it to the Ubuntu box allowed me to copy out all the data I cared for, without any wonky iTunes. But I agree with you, having microSD or at least USB mass storage is much better.
patrickk 16y ago
iTunes...ok it can be a right pain. No removable storage - not an issue for me. My brother has often misplaced his microSD card for his Samsung phone though, so I'm not sure if this is something I'd like. MP3s: http://www.ehow.com/how_2111958_convert-itunes-mp-mp.html http://www.ehow.com/how_2111958_convert-itunes-mp-mp.html Copying photos: http://www.macroplant.com/index.php http://www.macroplant.com/index.php (granted, this feature should be there by default) The iPhone is a great phone once you jailbreak & unlock it, IMO ;-) EDIT: Great smartphone comparison chart: http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smartphone-comparison-chart-dishes-the-dirt-on-smartphone-specs http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smartphone-comparison-chart-di...
- nailer 16y ago
  I jailbroke, unlocked, had bugs, heard about an update, waited for a new jailbreak to be announced, updated the OS in the hope they'd fix it, jailbroke again, unlocked again. Personally it was a stupid thing to do, and I wish I never bothered buying the iPhone. I now have an HTC Desire.
- axod 16y ago
  Maybe so. I don't want to jailbreak a phone, don't want to have to install things to be able to work with it. I just want the thing to work properly :)

by axod 16y ago

cageface 16y ago

I had an iPhone for 3 years or so. It was a great device for what it did, but the whole hassle of having to use iTunes. No removable storage. Can't just stuff mp3's on it and use as ringtones. Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. It's just a PITA. Not to mention the mass of features that are just lacking on the iPhone but you take for granted on Android. Exactly. Mobile doesn't mean you can copy your stuff onto something portable. It means you've got a window to your stuff in your pocket. Google's information-centric approach makes a lot more sense than Apple's device-centric approach.

axod 16y ago
Yup. And over the air updates are obviously a good idea. I plug my Nexus One into my computer when I want to, not when it needs to be plugged in (Unlike the iPhone). It stands up as a device on its own.
- nailer 16y ago
  That's what's holding me off on an iPad. Why buy a computer that needs to be plugged into another computer?
megablast 16y ago
Makes a lot more sense to everybody, except for the majority of people who still don't quite understand what a folder is. I agree, I like copying over mp3s and photos, finding out what folder they need to go in, if they have filename restrictions, that sort of thing. I have done that for a long time. I understand that, and find it easy. What I have a problem with is people who think that everybody wants it that way. Do you not understand that the majority are not like us, do not understand computers, need point and click interfaces? Why does this always come up?
- cageface 16y ago
  The only things I have to manually copy over to my Droid are music and video. Everything else (photos, contacts, email, docs) is just cached transparently from the cloud. This seems a lot simpler and more user-friendly to me than forcing a user to physically attach to a computer and worry about duplicates, overwrites, stale files etc. Isn't the whole idea to stop forcing users to think about files? The only reason I have to manually copy music and video is bandwidth so it's likely that at some point in the near future those will also be handled for me.
  - rogermugs 16y ago
    Linux fans always say it’s “getting better”, and there’s always a major distribution update a few months away that’s about to be awesome. But it never is

jodrellblank 16y ago

Can't just copy photos off it unless you go through the right software. Plug it in to a windows pc, it appears as a read only drive with your pictures / videos on it for 'just' copying off.

axod 16y ago
* I don't have windows * Read only? lame Having a microSD card, and being able to mount it r/w mass storage from anything, is pretty nice. It's irritating that Apple don't recognize things like that.
- vetinari 16y ago
  It actually uses PTP protocol for transferring photos. Once upon time I was trying to get data out of iPhone, that was paired to iTunes on a harddrive that went into the big bucket in the sky. To my surprise, connecting it to the Ubuntu box allowed me to copy out all the data I cared for, without any wonky iTunes. But I agree with you, having microSD or at least USB mass storage is much better.

patrickk 16y ago

iTunes...ok it can be a right pain. No removable storage - not an issue for me. My brother has often misplaced his microSD card for his Samsung phone though, so I'm not sure if this is something I'd like. MP3s: http://www.ehow.com/how_2111958_convert-itunes-mp-mp.html http://www.ehow.com/how_2111958_convert-itunes-mp-mp.html Copying photos: http://www.macroplant.com/index.php http://www.macroplant.com/index.php (granted, this feature should be there by default) The iPhone is a great phone once you jailbreak & unlock it, IMO ;-) EDIT: Great smartphone comparison chart: http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smartphone-comparison-chart-dishes-the-dirt-on-smartphone-specs http://lifehacker.com/5575317/smartphone-comparison-chart-di...

nailer 16y ago
I jailbroke, unlocked, had bugs, heard about an update, waited for a new jailbreak to be announced, updated the OS in the hope they'd fix it, jailbroke again, unlocked again. Personally it was a stupid thing to do, and I wish I never bothered buying the iPhone. I now have an HTC Desire.
axod 16y ago
Maybe so. I don't want to jailbreak a phone, don't want to have to install things to be able to work with it. I just want the thing to work properly :)