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Why not contribute to well-established open source Flash players? http://lightspark.github.io/ http://lightspark.github.io/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash

Why not contribute to well-established open source Flash players? http://lightspark.github.io/ http://lightspark.github.io/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

leeter 9y ago
Or https://github.com/mozilla/shumway https://github.com/mozilla/shumway which doesn't require any native code
- mgamache 9y ago
  Shumway is a dead project (hasn't been updated for a while). Too bad, because it showed promise.
  - fmoralesc 9y ago
    It can be forked and continued.
  - szatkus 9y ago
    Last time I tried it was working surprisingly well. Even if it's dead it can be useful.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
      > Even if it's dead it can be useful. An appropriate thing to say in a discussion about Flash :)
StevePerkins 9y ago
Because they're all alpha-level, and will probably always be to Flash what ReactOS is to Windows.
- nkkollaw 9y ago
  Perhaps, but let's say Windows is gone tomorrow: wouldn't React OS gain a lot of traction given all the software for Windows, and perhaps get a spike of volunteers?
  - ben174 9y ago
    > let's say Windows is gone tomorrow one can dream
Overtonwindow 9y ago
All of the above.
tbodt 9y ago
An open source Flash player is not perfectly bug-for-bug compatible with the real Flash player.
- nkkollaw 9y ago
  Sure, but if anyone is really interested in Flash and Adobe's player is reaching EOL, whatever open source project gets to be used as its substitute will become the standard, and no one will care about compatibility with Adobe's Flash player, since no one will have it installed.
  - tbodt 9y ago
    Which one is everyone going to install: an open source flash player that's not quite compatible, or the adobe one that's perfectly compatible?
    - nkkollaw 9y ago
      The one that isn't abandoned, which in 2020 will be the open source one. Again, I don't see why if there's interest in Flash and Adobe is abandoning its player, the open source ones can't be made to work as well (or as bad) as Adobe's. Firefox copied IE's quirks back in the day, I don't see why it can't be done again.
      - yuhong 9y ago
        Flash is more complex than HTML/CSS/JS though.
        hexmiles 9y ago
        are you sure? i worked with flash and actionscript, and i doubt they are more complex than html/css/js, personaly i think the contrary. What make more difficult the reimplementation is the abscence of a specification or a standard.
simion314 9y ago
IF Adobe open source it with a good license would make the live easier to the other projects, you could probably reimplement 80% of Flash without problems just by using the API documentation but the rest of 20% will be harder, having the code would solve this.
yread 9y ago
> The latest beta release of Gnash has been made at version 0.8.10 in mid Feb, 2012.

Why not contribute to well-established open source Flash players? http://lightspark.github.io/ http://lightspark.github.io/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

leeter 9y ago

Or https://github.com/mozilla/shumway https://github.com/mozilla/shumway which doesn't require any native code

mgamache 9y ago
Shumway is a dead project (hasn't been updated for a while). Too bad, because it showed promise.
- fmoralesc 9y ago
  It can be forked and continued.
- szatkus 9y ago
  Last time I tried it was working surprisingly well. Even if it's dead it can be useful.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    > Even if it's dead it can be useful. An appropriate thing to say in a discussion about Flash :)

StevePerkins 9y ago

Because they're all alpha-level, and will probably always be to Flash what ReactOS is to Windows.

nkkollaw 9y ago
Perhaps, but let's say Windows is gone tomorrow: wouldn't React OS gain a lot of traction given all the software for Windows, and perhaps get a spike of volunteers?
- ben174 9y ago
  > let's say Windows is gone tomorrow one can dream

Overtonwindow 9y ago

All of the above.

tbodt 9y ago

An open source Flash player is not perfectly bug-for-bug compatible with the real Flash player.

nkkollaw 9y ago
Sure, but if anyone is really interested in Flash and Adobe's player is reaching EOL, whatever open source project gets to be used as its substitute will become the standard, and no one will care about compatibility with Adobe's Flash player, since no one will have it installed.
- tbodt 9y ago
  Which one is everyone going to install: an open source flash player that's not quite compatible, or the adobe one that's perfectly compatible?
  - nkkollaw 9y ago
    The one that isn't abandoned, which in 2020 will be the open source one. Again, I don't see why if there's interest in Flash and Adobe is abandoning its player, the open source ones can't be made to work as well (or as bad) as Adobe's. Firefox copied IE's quirks back in the day, I don't see why it can't be done again.
    - yuhong 9y ago
      Flash is more complex than HTML/CSS/JS though.
      - hexmiles 9y ago
        are you sure? i worked with flash and actionscript, and i doubt they are more complex than html/css/js, personaly i think the contrary. What make more difficult the reimplementation is the abscence of a specification or a standard.

simion314 9y ago

IF Adobe open source it with a good license would make the live easier to the other projects, you could probably reimplement 80% of Flash without problems just by using the API documentation but the rest of 20% will be harder, having the code would solve this.

yread 9y ago

> The latest beta release of Gnash has been made at version 0.8.10 in mid Feb, 2012.