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A machine from 2013 is older, it's slower, the hardware has seen better days and there are features built into a modern OS that just won't work with a chip set

A machine from 2013 is older, it's slower, the hardware has seen better days and there are features built into a modern OS that just won't work with a chip set that the user bought from Best Buy at the bargain rack. We all wanted Windows and MS to push computing forward for the longest time and now that they actually are, people are bitching about it. Not because it's bad for business, it's bad for them personally and anecdotally. Go figure. This article seems like a rant and not supported by data.

ivanbakel 9y ago
And yet none of those things will totally preclude it from running a modern OS. I've got a CPU and motherboard in my desktop from 2012, and it's never been taxed enough to make me upgrade. What features does Windows 10 have that require a chipset upgrade?
- astrowilliam 9y ago
  If it runs fine with its current OS and hardware, there's no need to upgrade. Keep your current OS, your current hardware and you're fine. It's not Microsofts duty to support very old hardware.
  - ivanbakel 9y ago
    That's not an answer to the question of what Windows 10 can do that makes my hardware obsolete? It's definitely not performance.
  - YawningAngel 9y ago
    Actually it is, Windows 10 is supported until 2020 and I think it's entirely reasonable to expect all Win10 hardware to be updateable until then as MS very clearly say the OS is not supported without all updates installed. Cf support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet
- ksk 9y ago
  >What features does Windows 10 have that require a chipset upgrade? The original Windows 10 already works on those machines. In an update to W10, the graphics API has changed, and the GPU vendor isn't willing to update the drivers. I suppose MS thought it would be best to block the W10 update. From what I've read, the changes are to do with the newer features surrounding High DPI monitors.
Eric_WVGG 9y ago
I have to disagree. Computers are not getting faster at a rate that they did a decade ago. I just upgraded from a 2013 laptop to a 2016, it is not appreciably faster in any way except gaming. You can blame Microsoft for crummy support, or the manufacturers for poor business practices, but a 2013 machine is not slower or depreciated. And I'm not sure what "hardware has seen better days" means, chips don't wear out like automobile parts.
- astrowilliam 9y ago
  If you didn't need to upgrade, you wouldn't have. You got a gaming computer because you wanted to upgrade to faster hardware and a faster GPU chipset. The hardware isn't just a chipset, it's the fans, the drives, etc.
  - YawningAngel 9y ago
    Windows 10 has a hardware specification. That specification hasn't changed. Why shouldn't spec compliant hardware be expected to work?
abiox 9y ago
> there are features built into a modern OS that just won't work with a chip set that the user bought from Best Buy at the bargain rack what features?

ivanbakel 9y ago

And yet none of those things will totally preclude it from running a modern OS. I've got a CPU and motherboard in my desktop from 2012, and it's never been taxed enough to make me upgrade. What features does Windows 10 have that require a chipset upgrade?

astrowilliam 9y ago
If it runs fine with its current OS and hardware, there's no need to upgrade. Keep your current OS, your current hardware and you're fine. It's not Microsofts duty to support very old hardware.
- ivanbakel 9y ago
  That's not an answer to the question of what Windows 10 can do that makes my hardware obsolete? It's definitely not performance.
- YawningAngel 9y ago
  Actually it is, Windows 10 is supported until 2020 and I think it's entirely reasonable to expect all Win10 hardware to be updateable until then as MS very clearly say the OS is not supported without all updates installed. Cf support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet
ksk 9y ago
>What features does Windows 10 have that require a chipset upgrade? The original Windows 10 already works on those machines. In an update to W10, the graphics API has changed, and the GPU vendor isn't willing to update the drivers. I suppose MS thought it would be best to block the W10 update. From what I've read, the changes are to do with the newer features surrounding High DPI monitors.

Eric_WVGG 9y ago

I have to disagree. Computers are not getting faster at a rate that they did a decade ago. I just upgraded from a 2013 laptop to a 2016, it is not appreciably faster in any way except gaming. You can blame Microsoft for crummy support, or the manufacturers for poor business practices, but a 2013 machine is not slower or depreciated. And I'm not sure what "hardware has seen better days" means, chips don't wear out like automobile parts.

astrowilliam 9y ago
If you didn't need to upgrade, you wouldn't have. You got a gaming computer because you wanted to upgrade to faster hardware and a faster GPU chipset. The hardware isn't just a chipset, it's the fans, the drives, etc.
- YawningAngel 9y ago
  Windows 10 has a hardware specification. That specification hasn't changed. Why shouldn't spec compliant hardware be expected to work?

abiox 9y ago

> there are features built into a modern OS that just won't work with a chip set that the user bought from Best Buy at the bargain rack what features?