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Why don't you like it?

silverbax88 9y ago
I hate the idea of moving elements around the entire window after I've started using them. I don't want to use the address bar as a search bar, but the overall problem is from a UX standpoint - you start typing into a textbox, and it vanishes/moves into the address bar. That's like starting to turn a knob on a door and your hand is suddenly somewhere else, like down near the bottom of the door or near the top. It's inconsistent and disruptive. It slows down the experience. I didn't come to the page to get tossed around everywhere, I came to search for something and get off of the page as quickly as possible. And it moves the design closer to the horrible design creeping into applications today: instead of designing for every device, too many apps are designed for the worst platform, which is mobile. Capital One just redesigned their entire site for mobile, which added a lot more navigation/clicks for web users. That's just inferior design. Actually, it's not even design, it's just inferior hack layout. We live in an era where original web page design was horrible, and somehow we continue to make pages harder and harder to use. There's a pervasive myth among app designers and startups to just 'remove' functionality instead of actually delivering smart functionality. Simplifaction for ease of use is geat, but most simplification is just reducing an app to a single button and just makes real functionality harder to use. Omnibox falls into that trend. Make the search results better, get rid of spam, and stop spending even one second writing code to move the text input around inexplicably. Good design should be invisible - I shouldn't notice it. Moving elements around after I've started interacting with them is just unnecessary annoyance with no benefit to me as a user. I don't want another crappy universal search bar, which is all this is. I just want to enter a search and move to the next page, so I can try and sift through the crappily selected results Google spits out. I already know Google's results are going to be poor enough I'll have to wade through them, why slow me down up front? And so on.
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- manigandham 9y ago
  This seems to be the "new tab/page" box which every browser does, moving from center of page to address bar. You can easily switch to a different new page or use the address bar from the beginning.
  - silverbax88 9y ago
    I know that, because that's what I do. But my point is, I shouldn't have to know how to 'hack' around the browser just to use a textbox. That's really inferior UX design. I shouldn't even be thinking about any of that, I should be thinking about what the Google results are, not how to use Google.
    - manigandham 9y ago
      What are you hacking around? Why not just use the address bar all the time?
      - shitgoose 9y ago
        then why putting an input area in the middle of the page with inviting prompt "search google or type url"? simple act of entering search terms and pressing Enter button - instead turns into a mental game of "if it is a brand new search, then search terms will appear in url bar no matter where i type them; when search results come, my search terms will be copied to the input box on the page and later can be edited there". sorry, this is just plain stupid. sounds like an executive design, no normal developer would come up with this crap.
      - silverbax88 9y ago
        Then why does Google have a textbox on the app? Why not just put a blank page as their front page? And why does the textbox only suddenly move your input from a web app element to a browser element in only this one instance? What solution does this solve for me, the user, to have to determine that in this one instance, the textbox can't be used, but on literally every other application out of millions of web applications, text boxes work correctly?

I hate the idea of moving elements around the entire window after I've started using them. I don't want to use the address bar as a search bar, but the overall problem is from a UX standpoint - you start typing into a textbox, and it vanishes/moves into the address bar. That's like starting to turn a knob on a door and your hand is suddenly somewhere else, like down near the bottom of the door or near the top. It's inconsistent and disruptive. It slows down the experience. I didn't come to the page to get tossed around everywhere, I came to search for something and get off of the page as quickly as possible. And it moves the design closer to the horrible design creeping into applications today: instead of designing for every device, too many apps are designed for the worst platform, which is mobile. Capital One just redesigned their entire site for mobile, which added a lot more navigation/clicks for web users. That's just inferior design. Actually, it's not even design, it's just inferior hack layout. We live in an era where original web page design was horrible, and somehow we continue to make pages harder and harder to use. There's a pervasive myth among app designers and startups to just 'remove' functionality instead of actually delivering smart functionality. Simplifaction for ease of use is geat, but most simplification is just reducing an app to a single button and just makes real functionality harder to use. Omnibox falls into that trend. Make the search results better, get rid of spam, and stop spending even one second writing code to move the text input around inexplicably. Good design should be invisible - I shouldn't notice it. Moving elements around after I've started interacting with them is just unnecessary annoyance with no benefit to me as a user. I don't want another crappy universal search bar, which is all this is. I just want to enter a search and move to the next page, so I can try and sift through the crappily selected results Google spits out. I already know Google's results are going to be poor enough I'll have to wade through them, why slow me down up front? And so on.

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manigandham 9y ago
This seems to be the "new tab/page" box which every browser does, moving from center of page to address bar. You can easily switch to a different new page or use the address bar from the beginning.
- silverbax88 9y ago
  I know that, because that's what I do. But my point is, I shouldn't have to know how to 'hack' around the browser just to use a textbox. That's really inferior UX design. I shouldn't even be thinking about any of that, I should be thinking about what the Google results are, not how to use Google.
  - manigandham 9y ago
    What are you hacking around? Why not just use the address bar all the time?
    - shitgoose 9y ago
      then why putting an input area in the middle of the page with inviting prompt "search google or type url"? simple act of entering search terms and pressing Enter button - instead turns into a mental game of "if it is a brand new search, then search terms will appear in url bar no matter where i type them; when search results come, my search terms will be copied to the input box on the page and later can be edited there". sorry, this is just plain stupid. sounds like an executive design, no normal developer would come up with this crap.
    - silverbax88 9y ago
      Then why does Google have a textbox on the app? Why not just put a blank page as their front page? And why does the textbox only suddenly move your input from a web app element to a browser element in only this one instance? What solution does this solve for me, the user, to have to determine that in this one instance, the textbox can't be used, but on literally every other application out of millions of web applications, text boxes work correctly?