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by jostmey 9y ago

tannerc 9y ago
Having children is just one of many ways you can make an impact and "leave something behind" for the future.
- abainbridge 9y ago
  Indeed. The excessive number of people on Earth is currently causing a major extinction event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction). Some might say that not having a kid is the best way to "leave something behind" for the future. It's probably preferable to have some negative feedback in the human population explosion, without having to resort to wars.
it_learnses 9y ago
And if you do leave something behind in the future, to what end are you doing it? You are still dead.
- jostmey 9y ago
  Do you have a kid? A kid is of course a distinct individual, but it is uncanny how much of you just "naturally" appears in them
  - jackNoff 9y ago
    I sure as heck hope your kids are don’t become asshats like you, but they probably will :/
colanderman 9y ago
Yeah, really sucks to be someone who can't or chooses not to have children, or who chooses to adopt. Dead ends on the tree of life, the lot of us. /s Please reevaluate your respect for others, if you view childrearing from your own loins as the only means of being a valuable human being.
mgberlin 9y ago
This mindset is extremely disturbing, that the only way to make a difference in the world is to reproduce. Really if you want to make the biggest impact on the most people, you won't bring any more consumers into the world.
- scottLobster 9y ago
  I've never understood this argument. Nor the "if you really care about climate change you won't have kids" argument. If I have kids and teach them good values that's more future votes for action on climate change among other issues, and more people to spread good values around to others. Don't get me wrong people who don't want kids shouldn't have kids because they'll resent their kids and likely be poorer parents for it. But claiming they're somehow doing the world a service by "not bringing more consumers into the world" or "reducing their carbon footprint" is just pure rationalization. Kids are not intrinsically a net negative for the environment or society.
throwawayjava 9y ago
Adopt.
jackNoff 9y ago
Yes! Life is meaningless without children! /s Whatever will I do? Jesus I bet you’re fun at parties, oh wait, you probably aren’t invited because you think life is meaningless without children. Jesus, the audacity of some people.
simonpantzare 9y ago
I suggest you express yourself less harshly. On the contrary, if the _only_ thing you could leave behind were children maybe that's not the best branch to grow on.
- loader 9y ago
  Put another way, the easiest way to leave a legacy is to have children. But there are so many other ways!
djtriptych 9y ago
If this is true, we have no higher purpose than dogs.
- gefh 9y ago
  Eat, play, be cute - that's a higher purpose I could get behind.
Alex3917 9y ago
> You can buy at home sperm test kits and get results in minutes. Those only test for the quantity, not for the motility, morphology, antibodies, white blood cell count, etc.

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tannerc 9y ago

Having children is just one of many ways you can make an impact and "leave something behind" for the future.

abainbridge 9y ago
Indeed. The excessive number of people on Earth is currently causing a major extinction event (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction). Some might say that not having a kid is the best way to "leave something behind" for the future. It's probably preferable to have some negative feedback in the human population explosion, without having to resort to wars.

it_learnses 9y ago

And if you do leave something behind in the future, to what end are you doing it? You are still dead.

jostmey 9y ago
Do you have a kid? A kid is of course a distinct individual, but it is uncanny how much of you just "naturally" appears in them
- jackNoff 9y ago
  I sure as heck hope your kids are don’t become asshats like you, but they probably will :/

colanderman 9y ago

Yeah, really sucks to be someone who can't or chooses not to have children, or who chooses to adopt. Dead ends on the tree of life, the lot of us. /s Please reevaluate your respect for others, if you view childrearing from your own loins as the only means of being a valuable human being.

mgberlin 9y ago

This mindset is extremely disturbing, that the only way to make a difference in the world is to reproduce. Really if you want to make the biggest impact on the most people, you won't bring any more consumers into the world.

scottLobster 9y ago
I've never understood this argument. Nor the "if you really care about climate change you won't have kids" argument. If I have kids and teach them good values that's more future votes for action on climate change among other issues, and more people to spread good values around to others. Don't get me wrong people who don't want kids shouldn't have kids because they'll resent their kids and likely be poorer parents for it. But claiming they're somehow doing the world a service by "not bringing more consumers into the world" or "reducing their carbon footprint" is just pure rationalization. Kids are not intrinsically a net negative for the environment or society.

throwawayjava 9y ago

Adopt.

jackNoff 9y ago

Yes! Life is meaningless without children! /s Whatever will I do? Jesus I bet you’re fun at parties, oh wait, you probably aren’t invited because you think life is meaningless without children. Jesus, the audacity of some people.

simonpantzare 9y ago

I suggest you express yourself less harshly. On the contrary, if the _only_ thing you could leave behind were children maybe that's not the best branch to grow on.

loader 9y ago
Put another way, the easiest way to leave a legacy is to have children. But there are so many other ways!

djtriptych 9y ago

If this is true, we have no higher purpose than dogs.

gefh 9y ago
Eat, play, be cute - that's a higher purpose I could get behind.

Alex3917 9y ago

> You can buy at home sperm test kits and get results in minutes. Those only test for the quantity, not for the motility, morphology, antibodies, white blood cell count, etc.