> and some would argue that software that chooses not to implement that shouldn't advertise 8BITMIME. Which is why I wrote that email still nominally isn't 8-b

> and some would argue that software that chooses not to implement that shouldn't advertise 8BITMIME. Which is why I wrote that email still nominally isn't 8-bit clean :-) Yes, in practice, you won't find an MTA that doesn't leave your 8 bit data unharmed, but you do find MTAs that don't advertise 8BITMIME, and so nominally noone should send them 8 bit data ... except everyone does anyway, of course ...