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WTF does this mean?

by mnm1 9y ago

WTF does this mean?

ayrx 9y ago
It very clearly shows the need for education.
icebraining 9y ago
Seems understandable to me: residents of these less educated communities see their kids get an education and that leading them to leave their home towns into the wider society (with its destructive hedonistic culture), and in turn to reject the values of their parents and even advocate for policies that destroy these communities. Hence these older generations resist getting their kids "too much" education. It's an interesting point, though it reminds me of this satirical ad on GTA SA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XydMKkHBL4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XydMKkHBL4
- mnm1 9y ago
  Understandable? It's barely English. And wow, that's absolutely fucking disgusting on the part of the parents if what you say is true (I don't doubt it). Maybe the parents' values should be destroyed then. That is some fucked up shit. Hey, let's hold our kids back from advancing in life because our own stupid, small-minded beliefs dictate so. After all, it takes some real stupidity to judge all wider society cultures (yes, plural) as hedonistic and destructive.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    It's just my interpretation of Pica_soO's post, I've never even been to the US.
    - mnm1 9y ago
      Oh, I think your interpretation is rather accurate.
  - aaron-lebo 9y ago
    You don't get it. These parents aren't trying to ruin their kids' lives (they care about them more than you do - they actually did the hard stuff like raise and support them), they just don't know any better (lack of education) and they want to keep their families together and presumably what is best for their kids. It's not that hard to understand if you try and put yourself in their shoes and don't assume they are "disgusting, stupid, and small-minded". You aren't any different than them in your judgement of other societies, you just happen to have a potential advantage in education. What is your excuse for such derision? You act like these people are animals and you aren't ever going to reach them and you are going to exacerbate the same impact you are talking about. Do you have the same view of all poor people embedded in a national culture?
    - mnm1 9y ago
      I have the same view of anyone who tries to hold anyone, especially their kids, back from getting an education and having a decent life because of their own stupidity. Stupidity is disgusting in a society that provides opportunities for education and betterment like the US does. They may not be the best opportunities or all that abundant in some places, but those opportunities exist. This isn't about poor people at all, it's about stupid people who choose to stay stupid. Plenty of poor people strive to not be stupid and strive especially hard for their kids to not end up stupid and to have a decent life. I do, however, deride those who have opportunities to do so but do not take advantage of them and try to promote their own stupidity and actively prevent their children from taking advantage of opportunities because they think their stupidity is somehow part of a culture worth preserving. It's not. Such "culture" of stupidity is indeed quite sick to me and forcing something like this onto children borders on abuse. I never said such people couldn't be reached, however, nor that this is a trait of those in poverty. In fact, there's plenty of people far removed from poverty that hold tight to their own stupidity to the detriment of their children all over the world. Doesn't make it any less disgusting.
    - osaatcioglu 9y ago
      The discussion is not about caring and supporting the kids. The parents' best intention is not questioned but rather the method on how to apply the best intentions on their children. As I was born in a conservative background and I found my way out in a long journey in a totally different country, I agree that people with the conservative background regardless of any country have a tendency to see the education, tech, big cities or most of the new things as poisonous to their core values. So that, they are trying to hinder their children to have access to these just because they love them and care them. They just want their kids to be happy and stay in the family as themselves who were kept by their parents. In my opinion, this is not a new thing. This has been going for a very long time throughout the history. I understand that the change is scary from the conservative point of view. This is why; I try to not to judge anyone. But, I just see it as a puny fight against the windmill in the long run.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  A whole lot of the satirical political ads in GTA are downright creepy in terms of how on-point and relevant they are. It's genuinely unsettling.

WTF does this mean?

by mnm1 9y ago

WTF does this mean?

ayrx 9y ago

It very clearly shows the need for education.

icebraining 9y ago

Seems understandable to me: residents of these less educated communities see their kids get an education and that leading them to leave their home towns into the wider society (with its destructive hedonistic culture), and in turn to reject the values of their parents and even advocate for policies that destroy these communities. Hence these older generations resist getting their kids "too much" education. It's an interesting point, though it reminds me of this satirical ad on GTA SA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XydMKkHBL4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XydMKkHBL4

mnm1 9y ago
Understandable? It's barely English. And wow, that's absolutely fucking disgusting on the part of the parents if what you say is true (I don't doubt it). Maybe the parents' values should be destroyed then. That is some fucked up shit. Hey, let's hold our kids back from advancing in life because our own stupid, small-minded beliefs dictate so. After all, it takes some real stupidity to judge all wider society cultures (yes, plural) as hedonistic and destructive.
- icebraining 9y ago
  It's just my interpretation of Pica_soO's post, I've never even been to the US.
  - mnm1 9y ago
    Oh, I think your interpretation is rather accurate.
- aaron-lebo 9y ago
  You don't get it. These parents aren't trying to ruin their kids' lives (they care about them more than you do - they actually did the hard stuff like raise and support them), they just don't know any better (lack of education) and they want to keep their families together and presumably what is best for their kids. It's not that hard to understand if you try and put yourself in their shoes and don't assume they are "disgusting, stupid, and small-minded". You aren't any different than them in your judgement of other societies, you just happen to have a potential advantage in education. What is your excuse for such derision? You act like these people are animals and you aren't ever going to reach them and you are going to exacerbate the same impact you are talking about. Do you have the same view of all poor people embedded in a national culture?
  - mnm1 9y ago
    I have the same view of anyone who tries to hold anyone, especially their kids, back from getting an education and having a decent life because of their own stupidity. Stupidity is disgusting in a society that provides opportunities for education and betterment like the US does. They may not be the best opportunities or all that abundant in some places, but those opportunities exist. This isn't about poor people at all, it's about stupid people who choose to stay stupid. Plenty of poor people strive to not be stupid and strive especially hard for their kids to not end up stupid and to have a decent life. I do, however, deride those who have opportunities to do so but do not take advantage of them and try to promote their own stupidity and actively prevent their children from taking advantage of opportunities because they think their stupidity is somehow part of a culture worth preserving. It's not. Such "culture" of stupidity is indeed quite sick to me and forcing something like this onto children borders on abuse. I never said such people couldn't be reached, however, nor that this is a trait of those in poverty. In fact, there's plenty of people far removed from poverty that hold tight to their own stupidity to the detriment of their children all over the world. Doesn't make it any less disgusting.
  - osaatcioglu 9y ago
    The discussion is not about caring and supporting the kids. The parents' best intention is not questioned but rather the method on how to apply the best intentions on their children. As I was born in a conservative background and I found my way out in a long journey in a totally different country, I agree that people with the conservative background regardless of any country have a tendency to see the education, tech, big cities or most of the new things as poisonous to their core values. So that, they are trying to hinder their children to have access to these just because they love them and care them. They just want their kids to be happy and stay in the family as themselves who were kept by their parents. In my opinion, this is not a new thing. This has been going for a very long time throughout the history. I understand that the change is scary from the conservative point of view. This is why; I try to not to judge anyone. But, I just see it as a puny fight against the windmill in the long run.
FussyZeus 9y ago
A whole lot of the satirical political ads in GTA are downright creepy in terms of how on-point and relevant they are. It's genuinely unsettling.