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Yes. Look at https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/ https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/ for bare metal boxes provisioned in less time than an ec2 instance. Or if yo

Yes. Look at https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/ https://www.packet.net/bare-metal/ for bare metal boxes provisioned in less time than an ec2 instance. Or if you want to go old school, cheaper, and less sexy/api driven: https://www.delimiter.com/ https://www.delimiter.com/ If you shop, for around 30-40 a month you can get 16 cores, 32gb ram, and a 120GB ssd or 1-2TB spinny disk.

dman 9y ago
That price for that config sounds amazing. Any pointers?
- anonacct37 9y ago
  Right this second: https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/dedicated-servers/ https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/dedicated-servers/ $50/month 24GB ram, 16 threads, 2TB HD, gigabit uplink (20TB/month free). It's not hard to wait until they have a sale and/or coupons and/or pay upfront yearly to get a similar config for 30-40. (disclaimer: these servers are pretty "unmanaged") Or packet gives you a completely "cloud/api-driven" experience that's still on bare metal and reasonably priced compared to AWS or DO.
  - voltagex_ 9y ago
    Where do you find the discounts/sales?
    - chris_overseas 9y ago
      Here I guess? https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/clearance-servers/&step=0 https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/clearance-servers/&step=0
    - chx 9y ago
      webhostingtalk
- geff82 9y ago
  32€ quadcore 32GB RAM, 2x3TB HDD: hetzner.de in their "second hand market"
moondev 9y ago
Less time than ec2? Last time I test drove packet it was around 10 min
- EwanToo 9y ago
  That, unfortunately, can be less time than it takes AWS to provision the disks on some of their larger instance...
flukus 9y ago
A raspberry pi would also be more than enough for many use cases and can be hosted for ~$40/year: https://raspberry-hosting.com/en/order https://raspberry-hosting.com/en/order. I'd have one (or more) already if I didn't live on the opposite side of the world to the data center.
- Jaylyn_ 9y ago
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nodesocket 9y ago
Quick back of the napkin math, but Google Compute Engine (while it is shared) is significantly less expensive than Packet. This is just comparing purely on price though. Packet - $292/mo 4 cores 32 GB memory 128 GB SSD Google Compute Engine - $176/mo $156 - custom-4-32-extended 4 cores / 32 GB memory $20 - 120 GB SSD storage
- cuu508 9y ago
  "4 cores" on GCE means 4 hyperthreads, or 2 physical cores. https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/machine-types https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/machine-types > For the n1 series of machine types, a virtual CPU is implemented as a single hardware hyper-thread on a 2.6 GHz Intel Xeon E5 (Sandy Bridge), 2.5 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v2 (Ivy Bridge), 2.3 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v3 (Haswell), 2.2 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v4 (Broadwell), or 2.0 GHz Intel Skylake (Skylake).
jopsen 9y ago
also scaleway.com (they have API, but no user-data). IMO, docker and container orchestration spells a bright future for bare-metal boxes like these, as you won't need cloudformation, etc.. But I still see few alternatives to S3, many vendors offers block devices, but only the big clouds offer blob storage. Backup and restore from blob storage makes recovery from crash pretty easy.
- sandromehic 9y ago
  How do open source solutions like minio.io on bare metal compare to s3? I don't have much experience with any of those, but it seems like a compatible solution.
  - jopsen 9y ago
    I haven't tried it either... but the nice thing with S3 is zero maintenance. A disk or machine dies it's not my problem. The not-my-problem aspect is really powerful.
- RX14 9y ago
  b2 is a really good alternative to s3.
  - jopsen 9y ago
    I assume you mean: backblaze.com/b2 I would be concerned with how good the connection is... Ie. if you use packet or scaleway, how stable/fast is the connection to b2. S3 being internal network at EC2 is a killer feature too :)
- chrisan 9y ago
  How does docker replace cloudformation? Don't you still need something that says "hey you are running out of capacity soon, time to add more hardware for your software to run on" There has to be something that adds more bare-metal for your docker containers to run on when the existing bare-metal reaches capacity, right?
trevyn 9y ago
I've been shopping for a few months, and I can't find 16 physical cores (32 threads) for less than about $70/mo.
- olegkikin 9y ago
  If you're talking about a single server, I doubt you will find anything cheaper. Compare it to AWS, something like c4.8xlarge will cost you $1.591/hr, or $735.84/month reserved. What is that $70/mo server with 16 cores? The cheapest I see is Kimsufi KS-5 8-core for $36/month. There's also an EU hoster Netcup that offers RS 4000 8-core for around $33.
bacheson1293 9y ago
I migrated to packet all bright eye'd and full of wonder...terrible mistake...outages on a weekly basis and they have no availability zones so when outage occurs the entire region is down. Replicating across regions failed our latency requirements so that was a no-go. I can't stress this enough. Having to roll your own / administrate a logging system, Database, load balancers, autoscale, file storage far exceeds the added cost of the cloud. Now that GCE has sustained usage discounts of 39% it makes no sense to go bare metal right now.

dman 9y ago

That price for that config sounds amazing. Any pointers?

anonacct37 9y ago
Right this second: https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/dedicated-servers/ https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/dedicated-servers/ $50/month 24GB ram, 16 threads, 2TB HD, gigabit uplink (20TB/month free). It's not hard to wait until they have a sale and/or coupons and/or pay upfront yearly to get a similar config for 30-40. (disclaimer: these servers are pretty "unmanaged") Or packet gives you a completely "cloud/api-driven" experience that's still on bare metal and reasonably priced compared to AWS or DO.
- voltagex_ 9y ago
  Where do you find the discounts/sales?
  - chris_overseas 9y ago
    Here I guess? https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/clearance-servers/&step=0 https://cc.delimiter.com/cart/clearance-servers/&step=0
  - chx 9y ago
    webhostingtalk
geff82 9y ago
32€ quadcore 32GB RAM, 2x3TB HDD: hetzner.de in their "second hand market"

moondev 9y ago

Less time than ec2? Last time I test drove packet it was around 10 min

EwanToo 9y ago
That, unfortunately, can be less time than it takes AWS to provision the disks on some of their larger instance...

flukus 9y ago

A raspberry pi would also be more than enough for many use cases and can be hosted for ~$40/year: https://raspberry-hosting.com/en/order https://raspberry-hosting.com/en/order. I'd have one (or more) already if I didn't live on the opposite side of the world to the data center.

Jaylyn_ 9y ago
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nodesocket 9y ago

Quick back of the napkin math, but Google Compute Engine (while it is shared) is significantly less expensive than Packet. This is just comparing purely on price though. Packet - $292/mo 4 cores 32 GB memory 128 GB SSD Google Compute Engine - $176/mo $156 - custom-4-32-extended 4 cores / 32 GB memory $20 - 120 GB SSD storage

cuu508 9y ago
"4 cores" on GCE means 4 hyperthreads, or 2 physical cores. https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/machine-types https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/machine-types > For the n1 series of machine types, a virtual CPU is implemented as a single hardware hyper-thread on a 2.6 GHz Intel Xeon E5 (Sandy Bridge), 2.5 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v2 (Ivy Bridge), 2.3 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v3 (Haswell), 2.2 GHz Intel Xeon E5 v4 (Broadwell), or 2.0 GHz Intel Skylake (Skylake).

jopsen 9y ago

also scaleway.com (they have API, but no user-data). IMO, docker and container orchestration spells a bright future for bare-metal boxes like these, as you won't need cloudformation, etc.. But I still see few alternatives to S3, many vendors offers block devices, but only the big clouds offer blob storage. Backup and restore from blob storage makes recovery from crash pretty easy.

sandromehic 9y ago
How do open source solutions like minio.io on bare metal compare to s3? I don't have much experience with any of those, but it seems like a compatible solution.
- jopsen 9y ago
  I haven't tried it either... but the nice thing with S3 is zero maintenance. A disk or machine dies it's not my problem. The not-my-problem aspect is really powerful.
RX14 9y ago
b2 is a really good alternative to s3.
- jopsen 9y ago
  I assume you mean: backblaze.com/b2 I would be concerned with how good the connection is... Ie. if you use packet or scaleway, how stable/fast is the connection to b2. S3 being internal network at EC2 is a killer feature too :)
chrisan 9y ago
How does docker replace cloudformation? Don't you still need something that says "hey you are running out of capacity soon, time to add more hardware for your software to run on" There has to be something that adds more bare-metal for your docker containers to run on when the existing bare-metal reaches capacity, right?

trevyn 9y ago

I've been shopping for a few months, and I can't find 16 physical cores (32 threads) for less than about $70/mo.

olegkikin 9y ago
If you're talking about a single server, I doubt you will find anything cheaper. Compare it to AWS, something like c4.8xlarge will cost you $1.591/hr, or $735.84/month reserved. What is that $70/mo server with 16 cores? The cheapest I see is Kimsufi KS-5 8-core for $36/month. There's also an EU hoster Netcup that offers RS 4000 8-core for around $33.

bacheson1293 9y ago

I migrated to packet all bright eye'd and full of wonder...terrible mistake...outages on a weekly basis and they have no availability zones so when outage occurs the entire region is down. Replicating across regions failed our latency requirements so that was a no-go. I can't stress this enough. Having to roll your own / administrate a logging system, Database, load balancers, autoscale, file storage far exceeds the added cost of the cloud. Now that GCE has sustained usage discounts of 39% it makes no sense to go bare metal right now.