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Yeah, they're basically industrial-scale defamation without recourse, trial, or evidence. From a game-theoretic perspective, you would be wrong not to take adva

Yeah, they're basically industrial-scale defamation without recourse, trial, or evidence. From a game-theoretic perspective, you would be wrong not to take advantage of it to burn your competitors. If it hasn't dawned on you, this is a political strategy, not a tool for the downtrodden. I have quite literally heard people talking about these things as "the way we'll close the gender participation gap", as in, they'll burn men's careers until things equal out. As stupid as this sounds, the fact that people are thinking it is alarming.

AlexCoventry 9y ago
> have quite literally heard people talking about these things as "the way we'll close the gender participation gap", as in, they'll burn men's careers until things equal out. Where? Any transcripts/ video?
- Dude2018 9y ago
  Are transcripts/video necessary for sexual harassment accusation?
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- 1_2__4 9y ago
  That's not very listeny or believey now is it?
pryce 9y ago
> have quite literally heard people talking about these things as "the way we'll close the gender participation gap", as in, they'll burn men's careers until things equal out. How does your quote imply your interpretation of malicious intent at all? If someone believes (rightly or wrongly) that the gap in participation in certain industries is because women feel unsafe participating in those industries from harassment etc, reducing harassment and providing avenues for those women to address that problem would naturally act to "close the gender participation gap". I wouldn't care to speculate what proportion of the gender participation gap is in fact due to women's experiences of harassment and/or anxieties about such -as I simply don't know, and would prefer to defer to women and the people who research these things-, but there is a pretty obvious and quite benign interpretation to your quote that you are choosing to ignore.
TeMPOraL 9y ago
> If it hasn't dawned on you, this is a political strategy, not a tool for the downtrodden. Also something that occurred to me - if I was an SJW, I'd encourage "guilty until proven innocent" mob reactions against sexual harassment accusations by women to create a powerful leverage for them - the ability to threaten someone with an accusation.
- microcolonel 9y ago
  The sad thing is, even after a well-defended trial with a clear, almost "proven innocent" outcome, where the witnesses were shown to have deliberately distorted or outright fabricated the facts, and the prosecutor has a personal connection and interest to the charge; people still remember the accusers as victims and the accused as a perpetrator. There are still people who believe the Rolling Stone rape hoax, there are still people who believe beyond doubt that Jian Ghomeshi is a rapist. The people whose names were tarnished by these accusations may never escape the consequences of being accused. The accusers will surely never face any consequences, even when shown nigh on conclusively to have lied on the stand. All the while, the public grows more jaded to all trials of these heinous crimes, which casts more public doubt on the allegations of genuine victims.

AlexCoventry 9y ago

> have quite literally heard people talking about these things as "the way we'll close the gender participation gap", as in, they'll burn men's careers until things equal out. Where? Any transcripts/ video?

Dude2018 9y ago
Are transcripts/video necessary for sexual harassment accusation?
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1_2__4 9y ago
That's not very listeny or believey now is it?

pryce 9y ago

> have quite literally heard people talking about these things as "the way we'll close the gender participation gap", as in, they'll burn men's careers until things equal out. How does your quote imply your interpretation of malicious intent at all? If someone believes (rightly or wrongly) that the gap in participation in certain industries is because women feel unsafe participating in those industries from harassment etc, reducing harassment and providing avenues for those women to address that problem would naturally act to "close the gender participation gap". I wouldn't care to speculate what proportion of the gender participation gap is in fact due to women's experiences of harassment and/or anxieties about such -as I simply don't know, and would prefer to defer to women and the people who research these things-, but there is a pretty obvious and quite benign interpretation to your quote that you are choosing to ignore.

TeMPOraL 9y ago

> If it hasn't dawned on you, this is a political strategy, not a tool for the downtrodden. Also something that occurred to me - if I was an SJW, I'd encourage "guilty until proven innocent" mob reactions against sexual harassment accusations by women to create a powerful leverage for them - the ability to threaten someone with an accusation.

microcolonel 9y ago
The sad thing is, even after a well-defended trial with a clear, almost "proven innocent" outcome, where the witnesses were shown to have deliberately distorted or outright fabricated the facts, and the prosecutor has a personal connection and interest to the charge; people still remember the accusers as victims and the accused as a perpetrator. There are still people who believe the Rolling Stone rape hoax, there are still people who believe beyond doubt that Jian Ghomeshi is a rapist. The people whose names were tarnished by these accusations may never escape the consequences of being accused. The accusers will surely never face any consequences, even when shown nigh on conclusively to have lied on the stand. All the while, the public grows more jaded to all trials of these heinous crimes, which casts more public doubt on the allegations of genuine victims.