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Interestingly, only the US and Japan have gendered scouting organizations. (Might be wrong on this, it's been at least a decade since I learned that)

geowwy 9y ago
Australia does too. http://girlguides.org.au/ http://girlguides.org.au/
- bruce_one 9y ago
  In Australia, Girl Guides is a female only organisation whilst Scouts allows any gender.
microcolonel 9y ago
> Interestingly, only the US and Japan have gendered scouting organizations. > (Might be wrong on this, it's been at least a decade since I learned that) And Canada. UK has partially-gendered scouting, but the boyscout organization becomes co-ed after a certain age, the girl side can remain separate indefinitely. I think it's somewhat separated in México as well, they have more different associations though, AFAIK. I think most countries which have scouting organizations have a gender separation.
- bdamm 9y ago
  It is not true that the Scouts in Canada are male-only. I have nieces who are proud and enthusiastic Scouts in Canada. (No idea about the Girl Guides.)
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    Ahh, looks like you're right. Seems nobody ever tries to get boys into the girl guides, frankly it seems a bit unfair that there is basically nowhere boys can be boys.
    - thomasahle 9y ago
      The individual scout groups and leaders have plenty of opportunity for making gender separation in tasks, patrols or troops. I don't really see that enforcing separation from the organisation level is very useful.
- mattrad 9y ago
  UK Scouting is fully non-gendered for all ages; see Scouting for All and the Equal Opportunities Policy: http://scouts.org.uk/about-us/key-policies/equal-opportunities-policy/ http://scouts.org.uk/about-us/key-policies/equal-opportuniti.... UK Guiding allows girls and young women, but fully supports gender self-identification: https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/girlguiding-policies/equality-and-diversity-policy/transgender-gender-reassignment/ https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policie.... Scouting and Guiding in the UK are refreshingly progressive organisations. Source: current Scout leader.
  - fastball 9y ago
    So what your saying is: as a self-identified male, I can't be a UK Guide? Sounds gendered to me.
    - microcolonel 9y ago
      God only knows what those boys would get up to if they had freedom of association! ;- )
    - Samathy 9y ago
      No, you can't. Because girls need a safe space to be girls (without any boys around) a lot more than boys need any more spaces where they can be boys without any girls around (there's enough of those).
      - microcolonel 9y ago
        > No, you can't. Because girls need a safe space to be girls (without any boys around) a lot more than boys need any more spaces where they can be boys without any girls around. Please substantiate this. > there's enough of those Name one that isn't a sports team.
      - to_bpr 9y ago
        What an incredibly toxic, and factually incorrect, mindset to hold.

geowwy 9y ago

Australia does too. http://girlguides.org.au/ http://girlguides.org.au/

bruce_one 9y ago
In Australia, Girl Guides is a female only organisation whilst Scouts allows any gender.

microcolonel 9y ago

> Interestingly, only the US and Japan have gendered scouting organizations. > (Might be wrong on this, it's been at least a decade since I learned that) And Canada. UK has partially-gendered scouting, but the boyscout organization becomes co-ed after a certain age, the girl side can remain separate indefinitely. I think it's somewhat separated in México as well, they have more different associations though, AFAIK. I think most countries which have scouting organizations have a gender separation.

bdamm 9y ago
It is not true that the Scouts in Canada are male-only. I have nieces who are proud and enthusiastic Scouts in Canada. (No idea about the Girl Guides.)
- microcolonel 9y ago
  Ahh, looks like you're right. Seems nobody ever tries to get boys into the girl guides, frankly it seems a bit unfair that there is basically nowhere boys can be boys.
  - thomasahle 9y ago
    The individual scout groups and leaders have plenty of opportunity for making gender separation in tasks, patrols or troops. I don't really see that enforcing separation from the organisation level is very useful.
mattrad 9y ago
UK Scouting is fully non-gendered for all ages; see Scouting for All and the Equal Opportunities Policy: http://scouts.org.uk/about-us/key-policies/equal-opportunities-policy/ http://scouts.org.uk/about-us/key-policies/equal-opportuniti.... UK Guiding allows girls and young women, but fully supports gender self-identification: https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/girlguiding-policies/equality-and-diversity-policy/transgender-gender-reassignment/ https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policie.... Scouting and Guiding in the UK are refreshingly progressive organisations. Source: current Scout leader.
- fastball 9y ago
  So what your saying is: as a self-identified male, I can't be a UK Guide? Sounds gendered to me.
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    God only knows what those boys would get up to if they had freedom of association! ;- )
  - Samathy 9y ago
    No, you can't. Because girls need a safe space to be girls (without any boys around) a lot more than boys need any more spaces where they can be boys without any girls around (there's enough of those).
    - microcolonel 9y ago
      > No, you can't. Because girls need a safe space to be girls (without any boys around) a lot more than boys need any more spaces where they can be boys without any girls around. Please substantiate this. > there's enough of those Name one that isn't a sports team.
    - to_bpr 9y ago
      What an incredibly toxic, and factually incorrect, mindset to hold.