> and unless you want to go back to only seeing new releases every 4+ years I was fine with that, I like my desktop to just be there and get out of the way, no

> and unless you want to go back to only seeing new releases every 4+ years I was fine with that, I like my desktop to just be there and get out of the way, not something that has to impress me with shiny new features constantly. Even the ported apps aren't consistent though, look at the mail app and the hideous background image they put in it. > I've never had windows "Freeze the desktop for 5 minutes at a time". I certainly have on an intermittent internet connection, the start menu can freeze for several minutes. That isn't good enough for a basic OS feature that shouldn't even have an internet connection. On the same connection it can also take several minutes to login to login to the machine because it's tied to the MS account.