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It's a completely different view of what the tab bar is. To me, the tab bar is a working area. I don't keep stuff that is not immediately relevant to what I'm

It's a completely different view of what the tab bar is. To me, the tab bar is a working area. I don't keep stuff that is not immediately relevant to what I'm doing in the working area. When you're soldering stuff, you don't want spatulas and eggs getting in your way. On the other hand, when you're cooking, you don't want solder to get mixed up with your food. > How else would you naturally organize your web-information? You don't. There's google for that :-)

saurik 9y ago
The problem is that some people don't have just one thing they are doing at a time: they have long-term projects that overlap in scope. I am a teacher at a University, where I am teaching multiple classes and helping multiple students. I am also an elected government official, where I am sitting on multiple committees and making decisions on multiple topics. I am also a software developer working on multiple projects and doing research into multiple algorithms. I am also a human being having fun in multiple ways and talking to multiple other people. Do you really insist that I finish, shut down, and serialize the state of every single task I am working on in order to work on some other task? That is probably the least efficient process I think you could come up with; every single sub-task I have has its own working area, and each of those involves maybe 12 tabs... so the result is many hundreds of tabs. If you only own one table, which you have to share between work as diverse as soldering and cooking, I highly recommend trying out a life with two tables for a while, as you might be shocked at how much more efficient life becomes when you don't have to pack up everything you are doing every time you get hungry. What makes a computer interesting is when you then realize you have an effectively infinite number of tables.
setr 9y ago
Hence, multiple windows (and because windows UX is broken, multiple browsers) And what'll you do for a large task thats interrupted by a small task? Wipe out the large and replace it with the small, then work up towards the large again? Obviously not; you stick it up with the large task's tabs, and just note which tab marks the differentiation between tasks (not literally... you mentally know a tab is associated with which task, unless both tasks are extremely similar) And multiple small tasks interrupting each other? (Often a redult of each one being extremely boring). Obviously, more tab sequences. The natural thing to do is accumulate tabs until it becomes unsustainable, and then garbage collect You choose instead to artificially constrain yourself for some arbitrary notion of cleansliness (One window, one tab sequence, I bet !) and then attack those of the One True Way with your spatulas and eggs. Google is your organization? Either you have an amazing memory of arbitrary websites...or you dont have any memory of them (artificial or otherwise)
- nice_byte 9y ago
  > And what'll you do for a large task thats interrupted by a small task? No, just open a new tab. I simply never have more than 2 tasks in-flight. I can't focus on more than two things at a time, and even then the second one has to be really quick (no more than 1 tab deep). And of course, once I'm done with something, it goes away. > Either you have an amazing memory of arbitrary websites...or you dont have any memory of them (artificial or otherwise) The latter. I don't commit things that can be searched to memory. For example, I don't go to Khronos website to search OpenGL APIs, I just google the function names. Same if I want to look for something in wikipedia. I also don't bother remembering website names. For example, if I know there's a particular article about shadow mapping I want to read, I can just google "article about shadowmapping by fabien" and the thing I'm looking for will be the top result. > The natural thing to do is accumulate tabs until it becomes unsustainable, and then garbage collect Sure. It's just that > 10 is already pushing it and > 20 tabs is completely unsustainable for me.
setr 9y ago
Hence, multiple windows (and because windows UX is broken, multiple browsers) And what'll you do for a large task thats interrupted by a small task? Wipe out the large and replace it with the small, then work up towards the large again? Obviously not; you stick it up with the large task's tabs, and just note which tab marks the differentiation between tasks (not literally... you mentally know a tab is associated with which task, unless both tasks are extremely similar) And multiple small tasks interrupting each other? (Often a redult of each one being extremely boring). Obviously, more tab sequences. The natural thing to do is accumulate tabs until it becomes unsustainable, and then garbage collect You choose instead to artificially constrain yourself for some arbitrary notion of cleansliness (One window, one tab sequence, I bet !) and then attack those of the One True Way with your spatulas and eggs. Google is your organization? Either you have an amazing memory of arbitrary websites...or you dont have any memory of them (artificial or otherwise)

saurik 9y ago

The problem is that some people don't have just one thing they are doing at a time: they have long-term projects that overlap in scope. I am a teacher at a University, where I am teaching multiple classes and helping multiple students. I am also an elected government official, where I am sitting on multiple committees and making decisions on multiple topics. I am also a software developer working on multiple projects and doing research into multiple algorithms. I am also a human being having fun in multiple ways and talking to multiple other people. Do you really insist that I finish, shut down, and serialize the state of every single task I am working on in order to work on some other task? That is probably the least efficient process I think you could come up with; every single sub-task I have has its own working area, and each of those involves maybe 12 tabs... so the result is many hundreds of tabs. If you only own one table, which you have to share between work as diverse as soldering and cooking, I highly recommend trying out a life with two tables for a while, as you might be shocked at how much more efficient life becomes when you don't have to pack up everything you are doing every time you get hungry. What makes a computer interesting is when you then realize you have an effectively infinite number of tables.

setr 9y ago

Hence, multiple windows (and because windows UX is broken, multiple browsers) And what'll you do for a large task thats interrupted by a small task? Wipe out the large and replace it with the small, then work up towards the large again? Obviously not; you stick it up with the large task's tabs, and just note which tab marks the differentiation between tasks (not literally... you mentally know a tab is associated with which task, unless both tasks are extremely similar) And multiple small tasks interrupting each other? (Often a redult of each one being extremely boring). Obviously, more tab sequences. The natural thing to do is accumulate tabs until it becomes unsustainable, and then garbage collect You choose instead to artificially constrain yourself for some arbitrary notion of cleansliness (One window, one tab sequence, I bet !) and then attack those of the One True Way with your spatulas and eggs. Google is your organization? Either you have an amazing memory of arbitrary websites...or you dont have any memory of them (artificial or otherwise)

nice_byte 9y ago
> And what'll you do for a large task thats interrupted by a small task? No, just open a new tab. I simply never have more than 2 tasks in-flight. I can't focus on more than two things at a time, and even then the second one has to be really quick (no more than 1 tab deep). And of course, once I'm done with something, it goes away. > Either you have an amazing memory of arbitrary websites...or you dont have any memory of them (artificial or otherwise) The latter. I don't commit things that can be searched to memory. For example, I don't go to Khronos website to search OpenGL APIs, I just google the function names. Same if I want to look for something in wikipedia. I also don't bother remembering website names. For example, if I know there's a particular article about shadow mapping I want to read, I can just google "article about shadowmapping by fabien" and the thing I'm looking for will be the top result. > The natural thing to do is accumulate tabs until it becomes unsustainable, and then garbage collect Sure. It's just that > 10 is already pushing it and > 20 tabs is completely unsustainable for me.

setr 9y ago