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IMHO there is something wrong when people leave tens+ tabs open. There are bookmarks for keeping references to pages. FF also has Pocket for keeping references

IMHO there is something wrong when people leave tens+ tabs open. There are bookmarks for keeping references to pages. FF also has Pocket for keeping references to pages I want to read later. So, this is a benchmark that should not be relevant in real life if the GUI offers the right solution for the problem of keeping references to pages.

PKop 9y ago
Isn’t it akin to the difference between hard disk storage and RAM? A temporal difference regarding access patterns specifically.
- stewbrew 9y ago
  For whatever reason this make me think of my swap partition. :-)
sixothree 9y ago
I often open 80+ tabs during the normal course of a day. Often times 5 of those are spreadsheets in one window with a few pdf spec documents, reference sites, handfuls a internet searches, a few for different version/pages of the application under test, and boom. Why would I want any of those in bookmarks when I can have them open when I need them, which is now.
- stewbrew 9y ago
  Well but ... In the course of a day, I often realize that I have the same URL opened in 2+ tabs. There of course are use cases where I want to have more views on the same page but usually, that's not the default behaviour I want. > open when I need them Well, what do you mean with "open". As I said IMHO there is something wrong here.
  - sixothree 9y ago
    By open I mean that they require no additional navigation or credential, other than clicking on the correct tab.
wvenable 9y ago
If you're a programmer, how many files do you have open in your editor? Less than 10? All the time? Why is a browser different?
- stewbrew 9y ago
  Most people aren't programmers and they (thinking of family etc.) sometimes use tabs as bookmarks. I don't argue against using tabs if you need them. What I'm saying is that people often use tabs when they actually want something else.
  - wvenable 9y ago
    I hardly bookmark anything anymore -- everything is temporary. If I need to find a site again, I typically just google for it and find it. Lots of tabs help mitigate that.
    - sixothree 9y ago
      Stewbrew might love this one. I often bookmark groups of tabs. For example, there are 6 spec documents (on my local disk) that I used every day for the last month or so. I middle click on that folder, and boom! 6 new tabs right there ready for me to read. There's no use trying to change people's behavior. And this particular one really shouldn't need to be defended. Some people have simpler workflows than mine. Ahem...
BeetleB 9y ago
>There are bookmarks for keeping references to pages. Bookmarks are a pain to manage. Tabs are meant to be temporary - even if I have one open for weeks on end. They are like a TODO list. Bookmarking the tab blurs the line between temporary and permanent stores. Blindly bookmarking to solve the problem will leave you with thousands of bookmarks. >FF also has Pocket for keeping references to pages I want to read later. And you'll end up with thousands of entries in your Pocket.

PKop 9y ago

Isn’t it akin to the difference between hard disk storage and RAM? A temporal difference regarding access patterns specifically.

stewbrew 9y ago
For whatever reason this make me think of my swap partition. :-)

sixothree 9y ago

I often open 80+ tabs during the normal course of a day. Often times 5 of those are spreadsheets in one window with a few pdf spec documents, reference sites, handfuls a internet searches, a few for different version/pages of the application under test, and boom. Why would I want any of those in bookmarks when I can have them open when I need them, which is now.

stewbrew 9y ago
Well but ... In the course of a day, I often realize that I have the same URL opened in 2+ tabs. There of course are use cases where I want to have more views on the same page but usually, that's not the default behaviour I want. > open when I need them Well, what do you mean with "open". As I said IMHO there is something wrong here.
- sixothree 9y ago
  By open I mean that they require no additional navigation or credential, other than clicking on the correct tab.

wvenable 9y ago

If you're a programmer, how many files do you have open in your editor? Less than 10? All the time? Why is a browser different?

stewbrew 9y ago
Most people aren't programmers and they (thinking of family etc.) sometimes use tabs as bookmarks. I don't argue against using tabs if you need them. What I'm saying is that people often use tabs when they actually want something else.
- wvenable 9y ago
  I hardly bookmark anything anymore -- everything is temporary. If I need to find a site again, I typically just google for it and find it. Lots of tabs help mitigate that.
  - sixothree 9y ago
    Stewbrew might love this one. I often bookmark groups of tabs. For example, there are 6 spec documents (on my local disk) that I used every day for the last month or so. I middle click on that folder, and boom! 6 new tabs right there ready for me to read. There's no use trying to change people's behavior. And this particular one really shouldn't need to be defended. Some people have simpler workflows than mine. Ahem...

BeetleB 9y ago

>There are bookmarks for keeping references to pages. Bookmarks are a pain to manage. Tabs are meant to be temporary - even if I have one open for weeks on end. They are like a TODO list. Bookmarking the tab blurs the line between temporary and permanent stores. Blindly bookmarking to solve the problem will leave you with thousands of bookmarks. >FF also has Pocket for keeping references to pages I want to read later. And you'll end up with thousands of entries in your Pocket.