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I wonder how long will browsers keep Flash around though? I doubt sites like Homestar Runner will just convert everything to HTML/CSS/JS.

geofft 9y ago
New episodes of Homestar Runner are already being distributed as normal videos, e.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0nuQ5o2DYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0nuQ5o2DYU (which is incidentally about the death of Flash)
- gpawl 9y ago
  Videos aren't interactive. Homestar Runner animations were interactive.
  - mikejmoffitt 9y ago
    More importantly, flash videos weren't riddled with 4:2:2 color compression and fixed resolution.
bsmedberg 9y ago
All of the browsers have published roadmap updates. Basically Flash will be disabled by default in mid-2019: Firefox: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-roadmap-flash-end-life/ https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-r... and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap Google: https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/ https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash... and https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/flash-roadmap https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/flash-roadmap Microsoft (Edge+IE): https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/07/25/flash-on-windows-timeline/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/07/25/flash-on-wind...
- eridius 9y ago
  That's not "all of the browsers", that's just most of them.
  - duskwuff 9y ago
    The only real* browser I can think of that isn't listed there is Opera, and they're only barely hanging on. The numbers I've seen peg them at roughly 1% of desktop browsers, mostly in Europe. *: That is, one that isn't just a reskin of another browser on the list.
    - eridius 9y ago
      How about Safari?
      - HHad3 9y ago
        Safari never shipped with Flash to begin with, and Apple has regularly published metadata updates, which blacklisted old, insecure versions of flash that the user might have had installed.
      - bdcravens 9y ago
        Given that Safari on iOS is what set the demise of Flash into motion I don't think Apple will remain a staunch supporter :-)
      - bzbarsky 9y ago
        What they said so far is https://webkit.org/blog/7839/adobe-announces-flash-distribution-and-updates-to-end/ https://webkit.org/blog/7839/adobe-announces-flash-distribut... Of course that describes what they are doing now, not their plans. Which is not surprising, because Apple never says anything about plans, as a matter of corporate policy...
      - duskwuff 9y ago
        Whoops, I totally didn't notice that was missing from the list. That being said, while Apple hasn't explicitly said they plan to remove Flash from desktop Safari, they've implicitly signalled it -- they've already got features in place which make it often only load on demand.

geofft 9y ago

New episodes of Homestar Runner are already being distributed as normal videos, e.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0nuQ5o2DYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0nuQ5o2DYU (which is incidentally about the death of Flash)

gpawl 9y ago
Videos aren't interactive. Homestar Runner animations were interactive.
- mikejmoffitt 9y ago
  More importantly, flash videos weren't riddled with 4:2:2 color compression and fixed resolution.

bsmedberg 9y ago

All of the browsers have published roadmap updates. Basically Flash will be disabled by default in mid-2019: Firefox: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-roadmap-flash-end-life/ https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2017/07/25/firefox-r... and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Plugins/Roadmap Google: https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash-chrome/ https://www.blog.google/products/chrome/saying-goodbye-flash... and https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/flash-roadmap https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/flash-roadmap Microsoft (Edge+IE): https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/07/25/flash-on-windows-timeline/ https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/07/25/flash-on-wind...

eridius 9y ago
That's not "all of the browsers", that's just most of them.
- duskwuff 9y ago
  The only real* browser I can think of that isn't listed there is Opera, and they're only barely hanging on. The numbers I've seen peg them at roughly 1% of desktop browsers, mostly in Europe. *: That is, one that isn't just a reskin of another browser on the list.
  - eridius 9y ago
    How about Safari?
    - HHad3 9y ago
      Safari never shipped with Flash to begin with, and Apple has regularly published metadata updates, which blacklisted old, insecure versions of flash that the user might have had installed.
    - bdcravens 9y ago
      Given that Safari on iOS is what set the demise of Flash into motion I don't think Apple will remain a staunch supporter :-)
    - bzbarsky 9y ago
      What they said so far is https://webkit.org/blog/7839/adobe-announces-flash-distribution-and-updates-to-end/ https://webkit.org/blog/7839/adobe-announces-flash-distribut... Of course that describes what they are doing now, not their plans. Which is not surprising, because Apple never says anything about plans, as a matter of corporate policy...
    - duskwuff 9y ago
      Whoops, I totally didn't notice that was missing from the list. That being said, while Apple hasn't explicitly said they plan to remove Flash from desktop Safari, they've implicitly signalled it -- they've already got features in place which make it often only load on demand.