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The thing that really gets to me is that I have no way of opting out of having my personal details in the governments databases. Compared to a private company w

The thing that really gets to me is that I have no way of opting out of having my personal details in the governments databases. Compared to a private company which if I don't trust I simply avoid. It can't leak data it doesn't have. But I'm completetly defenseless against my goverment. And I know of no serious politician (I'm Swedish) that talks about these issues. Which means I can't vote for better policies. Society is so far behind on understanding privacy issues and the impact of these shoddy practices.

AlexandrB 9y ago
> Society is so far behind on understanding privacy issues and the impact of these shoddy practices. I am now of the opinion that it's going to take something tragic happening - aided by mass surveillance - for this to change.
macintux 9y ago
> Compared to a private company which if I don't trust I simply avoid. Good luck avoiding Google.
- zwarag 9y ago
  Well thats not to difficult. And besides, the main point is that you can opt to not use Google services.
  - 3131s 9y ago
    Ever heard of DoubleClick? Google owns many ad networks.
  - macintux 9y ago
    I don't use most Google services, and when I do they're sandboxed, but Google cookies are omnipresent. I have no faith that my incognito efforts are all that incognito.
    - macintux 9y ago
      Which reminds me of one of the great annoyances: if you're a Google user, you can see what Google knows about you. If you're not, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
    - gruez 9y ago
      >I have no faith that my incognito efforts are all that incognito. But incognito cookies are isolated from normal browsing cookies? also, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destructing-cookies/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destruct...
      - macintux 9y ago
        Wasn't referring to any particular technology when I referred to "incognito", just my attempts to keep Google out of my life.
  - chipperyman573 9y ago
    Avoiding https://google.com https://google.com isn't difficult, but their tracking is pretty much everywhere. Even firefox uses their safe-browsing filter.
    - gruez 9y ago
      ...which you can opt out, and contrary to what you might believe, it doesn't send every site you visit to google (it queries a local bloom filter first)
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- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  Google can't throw you in prison if you make up an identity and use that for all the info you give to sites
kungtotte 9y ago
In the particular case here you could opt out by not having a driver's license. Perhaps not the most practical way of opting out, but this leak only concerned driver's license data.
- chipperyman573 9y ago
  Yes, but you can't know what a leak will contain until it happens. There's no way someone could have, a year ago, said "oh, I'll avoid getting a licence because in a year there will be a leak"
kalleboo 9y ago
Even though they have a snowball's chance in hell, and theyv'e had some really amateurish behaviour, I vote for the Pirate Party in Sweden.

AlexandrB 9y ago

> Society is so far behind on understanding privacy issues and the impact of these shoddy practices. I am now of the opinion that it's going to take something tragic happening - aided by mass surveillance - for this to change.

macintux 9y ago

> Compared to a private company which if I don't trust I simply avoid. Good luck avoiding Google.

zwarag 9y ago
Well thats not to difficult. And besides, the main point is that you can opt to not use Google services.
- 3131s 9y ago
  Ever heard of DoubleClick? Google owns many ad networks.
- macintux 9y ago
  I don't use most Google services, and when I do they're sandboxed, but Google cookies are omnipresent. I have no faith that my incognito efforts are all that incognito.
  - macintux 9y ago
    Which reminds me of one of the great annoyances: if you're a Google user, you can see what Google knows about you. If you're not, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
  - gruez 9y ago
    >I have no faith that my incognito efforts are all that incognito. But incognito cookies are isolated from normal browsing cookies? also, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destructing-cookies/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/self-destruct...
    - macintux 9y ago
      Wasn't referring to any particular technology when I referred to "incognito", just my attempts to keep Google out of my life.
- chipperyman573 9y ago
  Avoiding https://google.com https://google.com isn't difficult, but their tracking is pretty much everywhere. Even firefox uses their safe-browsing filter.
  - gruez 9y ago
    ...which you can opt out, and contrary to what you might believe, it doesn't send every site you visit to google (it queries a local bloom filter first)
- deleted 9y ago
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dsfyu404ed 9y ago
Google can't throw you in prison if you make up an identity and use that for all the info you give to sites

kungtotte 9y ago

In the particular case here you could opt out by not having a driver's license. Perhaps not the most practical way of opting out, but this leak only concerned driver's license data.

chipperyman573 9y ago
Yes, but you can't know what a leak will contain until it happens. There's no way someone could have, a year ago, said "oh, I'll avoid getting a licence because in a year there will be a leak"

kalleboo 9y ago

Even though they have a snowball's chance in hell, and theyv'e had some really amateurish behaviour, I vote for the Pirate Party in Sweden.