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I wonder what the major use cases are for Flash Player these days? I assume some of the 'Farm Ville' style web games are probably in Flash still these days.

hornbaker 9y ago
A metric TON of them are.
whatever_dude 9y ago
Lots of games, but that's about it.
- Will_Parker 9y ago
  It was a path to programming for a lot of artistic minded kids who enjoy learning things on their own. They could start by slowly adding programming to animations until it became a game they could share with their friends. A lot of these people grew up into development jobs. I think if the barrier to learning was picking up ES6 and React or Unity before being able to make a functional game, a lot of them would not have gotten started. This is not a small thing.
  - rocky1138 9y ago
    This is why they should open source it if they aren't planning to do anything with it.
    - icebraining 9y ago
      They are doing something with it, they renamed it to Animate and made it export to HTML5. They're just killing the format.
- xanderstrike 9y ago
  Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_televis... Flash is one of the best workflows for animators ever. This is equivalent to Photoshop being EOL'd because Apple doesn't like the pictures you can make with it.
Dolores12 9y ago
legacy games & apps
LeoNatan25 9y ago
A lot of advertisement on porn sites is still Flash. Will anybody think of the children?
gothroach 9y ago
VMware vCenter's Web UI by default runs in Flash, even on the newest vCenter 6.5. There's an option for an HTML5 interface, but it's not feature-complete and is far buggier and laggier than the already buggy Flash client. ESXi 6.5's web interface is HTML5, and it appears to have a lot of common codebase with vCenter's HTML5 interface, but is far more mature and accessible. I hope that this gives VMware the kick in the pants to finally lose the Flash vCenter client and finish up the HTML5 version.
- empath75 9y ago
  Just a couple of years ago, someone from EMC came to our data storage team and proudly announced their brand new interface, written in Flash. I laughed in his face when he said that. I guess it's a step up from java?
  - gothroach 9y ago
    That's amazing, I haven't used EMC much and didn't realize they used Flash for their interface also. I (with protest) use Java UIs so much for configuring various networking gear (old Cisco MDS switches still in use, etc) that I have to have three Win7 VMs with different Java versions and settings to make sure I can access them all. At least using Flash for the UI makes it so I can access it on just about any machine with Flash enabled so I don't have to have crazy configs to get things working.
    - ConceptJunkie 9y ago
      Ah yes, good old Java. Write once, run everywhere, but only on the exact same version of Java.
- wvenable 9y ago
  Be nice if they just went back to desktop client; it was better in every way.
  - gothroach 9y ago
touristtam 9y ago
An awfull lot of UI component in desktop and mobile application seems to be using flash under the hood, and yes that is including games as well, but not just the "farm ville" type (world of tanks is a prime example).
syshum 9y ago
Vmware, ADP, and Several Other very large Enterprise Vendors use Flash, Infact some of them just made a transitions from Java to Flash after Java announced the EOL of Web Browser Applets.
0xffff2 9y ago
HBO Now is still using a (terrible) Flash-based player.
- deleted 9y ago
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- stevenjgarner 9y ago
  Surely they're not alone. Aren't many media/news/entertainment companies in the same boat? e.g. go.cnn.com
  - 0xffff2 9y ago
    Probably but since CNN isn't the only legal source of new Game of Thrones episodes, I don't think nearly as many people care.
damontal 9y ago
Filmstruck uses it
samsonradu 9y ago
Low-latency live streaming and video conferencing on the web.
TremendousJudge 9y ago
spotify web uses flash
- Zopieux 9y ago
  No, it has been using EME[1] (eg. Google Widevine in Chrome) for a few months now. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions
xanderstrike 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_televis... Tons of animators still use Flash, the tools are by far the best and easiest for making animated and interactive content. It used to also have an awesome publishing path, but Apple killed that off. All the animators I know still work with it, but record the flash animations as videos and post 'em on youtube.

hornbaker 9y ago

A metric TON of them are.

whatever_dude 9y ago

Lots of games, but that's about it.

Will_Parker 9y ago
It was a path to programming for a lot of artistic minded kids who enjoy learning things on their own. They could start by slowly adding programming to animations until it became a game they could share with their friends. A lot of these people grew up into development jobs. I think if the barrier to learning was picking up ES6 and React or Unity before being able to make a functional game, a lot of them would not have gotten started. This is not a small thing.
- rocky1138 9y ago
  This is why they should open source it if they aren't planning to do anything with it.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    They are doing something with it, they renamed it to Animate and made it export to HTML5. They're just killing the format.
xanderstrike 9y ago
Wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_televis... Flash is one of the best workflows for animators ever. This is equivalent to Photoshop being EOL'd because Apple doesn't like the pictures you can make with it.

Dolores12 9y ago

legacy games & apps

LeoNatan25 9y ago

A lot of advertisement on porn sites is still Flash. Will anybody think of the children?

gothroach 9y ago

VMware vCenter's Web UI by default runs in Flash, even on the newest vCenter 6.5. There's an option for an HTML5 interface, but it's not feature-complete and is far buggier and laggier than the already buggy Flash client. ESXi 6.5's web interface is HTML5, and it appears to have a lot of common codebase with vCenter's HTML5 interface, but is far more mature and accessible. I hope that this gives VMware the kick in the pants to finally lose the Flash vCenter client and finish up the HTML5 version.

empath75 9y ago
Just a couple of years ago, someone from EMC came to our data storage team and proudly announced their brand new interface, written in Flash. I laughed in his face when he said that. I guess it's a step up from java?
- gothroach 9y ago
  That's amazing, I haven't used EMC much and didn't realize they used Flash for their interface also. I (with protest) use Java UIs so much for configuring various networking gear (old Cisco MDS switches still in use, etc) that I have to have three Win7 VMs with different Java versions and settings to make sure I can access them all. At least using Flash for the UI makes it so I can access it on just about any machine with Flash enabled so I don't have to have crazy configs to get things working.
  - ConceptJunkie 9y ago
    Ah yes, good old Java. Write once, run everywhere, but only on the exact same version of Java.
wvenable 9y ago
Be nice if they just went back to desktop client; it was better in every way.
- gothroach 9y ago

touristtam 9y ago

An awfull lot of UI component in desktop and mobile application seems to be using flash under the hood, and yes that is including games as well, but not just the "farm ville" type (world of tanks is a prime example).

syshum 9y ago

Vmware, ADP, and Several Other very large Enterprise Vendors use Flash, Infact some of them just made a transitions from Java to Flash after Java announced the EOL of Web Browser Applets.

0xffff2 9y ago

HBO Now is still using a (terrible) Flash-based player.

deleted 9y ago
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stevenjgarner 9y ago
Surely they're not alone. Aren't many media/news/entertainment companies in the same boat? e.g. go.cnn.com
- 0xffff2 9y ago
  Probably but since CNN isn't the only legal source of new Game of Thrones episodes, I don't think nearly as many people care.

damontal 9y ago

Filmstruck uses it

samsonradu 9y ago

Low-latency live streaming and video conferencing on the web.

TremendousJudge 9y ago

spotify web uses flash

Zopieux 9y ago
No, it has been using EME[1] (eg. Google Widevine in Chrome) for a few months now. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encrypted_Media_Extensions

xanderstrike 9y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_television_series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_televis... Tons of animators still use Flash, the tools are by far the best and easiest for making animated and interactive content. It used to also have an awesome publishing path, but Apple killed that off. All the animators I know still work with it, but record the flash animations as videos and post 'em on youtube.