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I have seen a massive downtrend in flash use already. Is there anyone building building new and serious projects in it now?

by sqeaky 9y ago

lj3 9y ago
Not since they bailed on stage3d. That was the beginning of the end.
- Someone 9y ago
  I thought this was the beginning of the end: https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
  - omg_ketchup 9y ago
    Only because Adobe decided to lay down and die after someone said something kinda mean and kinda true. They could have fixed most of it. Instead they were like "Nah, fuck it"
draw_down 9y ago
It used to be bundled with Chrome somehow so if you really needed it, you had it. Now I just don't use it. If something requires Flash then well, too bad for me.
- zerocrates 9y ago
  Still is bundled with Chrome.
  - draw_down 9y ago
    Oh I see, it's behind a "click-to-play" thing. For some reason I thought it was gone.
    - orbitur 9y ago
      I can understand why, I feel like the Chrome team has announced 3 or 4 times over the last 5 years that Flash was going away, but the only change was that you had to click to play it, and the other announcements seemed useless.
nerdponx 9y ago
Turner Classic Movies streams in Flash. Not sure how long that tech has been in use, I only started streaming it recently.
iRobbery 9y ago
If there is one, that must be an offline developer that doesn't communicate with other developers and missed adobes' own notification adobe adobe flash (https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-an...)
syshum 9y ago
Sadly yes... VMWare is one large one. I know of a very large company that has been over the last couple of years moving from Java to Flash, so it will be amusing to what their reaction will be to this news.
- Karunamon 9y ago
  Supposedly upgrading the vSphere web interface to HTML5 is on the roadmap, but I'm not sure when. I'm just happy that they give you an external console app now.
  - vsphereclientpm 9y ago
    We've been working on it publicly for over a year now. Have you had a chance to try the new HTML5 based #vsphereclient? 6.5.0b: https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2017/03/first-vsphere-client-html5-update-vsphere-6-5-b.html https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2017/03/first-vsphere-clien... or the Fling: https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vsphere-html5-web-client https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vsphere-html5-web-client
- syncsynchalt 9y ago
  Now that we're down to the last few sites running flash it really drives home what an annoyance they are. I don't run flash on my main browser (I work in security), so I have to keep Chrome handy to log into VMWare, and because even the login page is Flash there's little password manager support. Then once I'm logged in the non-native styling and controls really drive me up the wall.
FRex 9y ago
Yes, games. http://www.kongregate.com/top-rated-games?sort=newest http://www.kongregate.com/top-rated-games?sort=newest Although it's not clear from just a game being in Flash if it's in Haxe and compiled to Flash or actually in AS, but still. It's so convenient for games.
slashzeppelin 9y ago
Hotstar's (India's netflix) video player runs on Flash.
bdcravens 9y ago
I know that DI.fm's web player requires it - it's the only thing I whitelist Flash for. (though from my impression they have a pretty good dev team, so surely they're working on a replacement)
pzone 9y ago
Artists and animators. Deviantart, Furaffinity.

I have seen a massive downtrend in flash use already. Is there anyone building building new and serious projects in it now?

by sqeaky 9y ago

I have seen a massive downtrend in flash use already. Is there anyone building building new and serious projects in it now?

lj3 9y ago

Not since they bailed on stage3d. That was the beginning of the end.

Someone 9y ago
I thought this was the beginning of the end: https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
- omg_ketchup 9y ago
  Only because Adobe decided to lay down and die after someone said something kinda mean and kinda true. They could have fixed most of it. Instead they were like "Nah, fuck it"

draw_down 9y ago

It used to be bundled with Chrome somehow so if you really needed it, you had it. Now I just don't use it. If something requires Flash then well, too bad for me.

zerocrates 9y ago
Still is bundled with Chrome.
- draw_down 9y ago
  Oh I see, it's behind a "click-to-play" thing. For some reason I thought it was gone.
  - orbitur 9y ago
    I can understand why, I feel like the Chrome team has announced 3 or 4 times over the last 5 years that Flash was going away, but the only change was that you had to click to play it, and the other announcements seemed useless.

nerdponx 9y ago

Turner Classic Movies streams in Flash. Not sure how long that tech has been in use, I only started streaming it recently.

iRobbery 9y ago

If there is one, that must be an offline developer that doesn't communicate with other developers and missed adobes' own notification adobe adobe flash (https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-and-open-web-standards.html https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2015/11/flash-html5-an...)

syshum 9y ago

Sadly yes... VMWare is one large one. I know of a very large company that has been over the last couple of years moving from Java to Flash, so it will be amusing to what their reaction will be to this news.

Karunamon 9y ago
Supposedly upgrading the vSphere web interface to HTML5 is on the roadmap, but I'm not sure when. I'm just happy that they give you an external console app now.
- vsphereclientpm 9y ago
  We've been working on it publicly for over a year now. Have you had a chance to try the new HTML5 based #vsphereclient? 6.5.0b: https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2017/03/first-vsphere-client-html5-update-vsphere-6-5-b.html https://blogs.vmware.com/vsphere/2017/03/first-vsphere-clien... or the Fling: https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vsphere-html5-web-client https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vsphere-html5-web-client
syncsynchalt 9y ago
Now that we're down to the last few sites running flash it really drives home what an annoyance they are. I don't run flash on my main browser (I work in security), so I have to keep Chrome handy to log into VMWare, and because even the login page is Flash there's little password manager support. Then once I'm logged in the non-native styling and controls really drive me up the wall.

FRex 9y ago

Yes, games. http://www.kongregate.com/top-rated-games?sort=newest http://www.kongregate.com/top-rated-games?sort=newest Although it's not clear from just a game being in Flash if it's in Haxe and compiled to Flash or actually in AS, but still. It's so convenient for games.

slashzeppelin 9y ago

Hotstar's (India's netflix) video player runs on Flash.

bdcravens 9y ago

I know that DI.fm's web player requires it - it's the only thing I whitelist Flash for. (though from my impression they have a pretty good dev team, so surely they're working on a replacement)

pzone 9y ago

Artists and animators. Deviantart, Furaffinity.