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OK. I mostly agree. But in a legitimate democracy, the citizenry cannot be "victimized" by "public servants that don't serve them". If you hire some servants,
by veidr 9y ago
OK. I mostly agree.
But in a legitimate democracy, the citizenry cannot be "victimized" by "public servants that don't serve them".
If you hire some servants, and those servants don't serve you, and you don't get some new servants... whose fault is that?
But you're right on the essential point: the democratically elected government (== citizenry) involved here is paying an arguably reasonable price, but the individuals responsible probably are not.
- Zigurd 9y agoPerjuring themselves can't be interpreted as a legitimate job function. Just as the city would sue an accountant to recover embezzlement, the individuals responsible for this liability should have reimbursed the municipality.
- arthur_pryor 9y agothe specific people who are most hurt by bad law enforcement also tend to have the least power to "get some new servants." so who's fault is that? usually not the victim. or at least the most direct victim, since obviously, society as a whole is hurt by this sort of thing (just not as much as the person who's wrongly harassed/injured/killed by the cops). but maybe your point stands, because is that really a "legitimate democracy"?
- boomlinde 9y ago"Legitimate democracy" is a long lost true scotsman if you take it to mean a perfectly functioning democracy. Constantly being under threat of violence and arbitrary harassment from an armed force legitimized by the government undermines the fundamental principles of democracy. When you get beaten up for protesting, harassed for speaking your mind or fitting some fundamentally class-based stereotype, you can't exercise the command and influence you would be entitled to in a legitimate democracy.