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> is afraid of being resurrected and punished by a future super AI I hope you similarly mock those Christians or Hindus you come across. What makes this belief

> is afraid of being resurrected and punished by a future super AI I hope you similarly mock those Christians or Hindus you come across. What makes this belief system so much more worthy of scorn, even if Yudkowsky actually were afraid of this (given that, AFAIK, he has never expressed anything to suggest that he is)? "Autodidact" is not the insult you seem to think it is. Remove those two, and tone down the attacking voice, and you might have something one could discuss.

sheepdestroyer 9y ago
Just nick picking but any irrational belief is mockable, if not the people holding it themselves. And when people holding risible beliefs speak from authority, it is not unfair to cite those.
- Smaug123 9y ago
  There, but for the grace of God, go I. (And I repeat that I don't know of an instance where Yudkowsky has ever expressed fear that he will be revived by a future AI and tortured. This sounds like it's referring crudely to the memetic hazard known as Roko's Basilisk, which he has explicitly stated he doesn't believe in.)
  - skgoa 9y ago
    You are right, I misremembered that.
skgoa 9y ago
> I hope you similarly mock those Christians or Hindus you come across. What makes this belief system so much more worthy of scorn, even if Yudkowsky actually were afraid of this When said person is trying to argue that his believe system is factual, I do very much believe that mockery is counted for. E.g. if a christian where to tell me that the big bang did not happen and instead the universe was created by a magical sky fairy who is his own father and who has a really unhealthy obsession with my sexuality. Said christian is very much free to hold and express this believe. But I'm also free to express my incredulity. > "Autodidact" is not the insult you seem to think it is. Did I say it's an insult? It simply means that the guy does not know what he is taling about. Which is kinda important when people try to claim he is worth listening to.

sheepdestroyer 9y ago

Just nick picking but any irrational belief is mockable, if not the people holding it themselves. And when people holding risible beliefs speak from authority, it is not unfair to cite those.

Smaug123 9y ago
There, but for the grace of God, go I. (And I repeat that I don't know of an instance where Yudkowsky has ever expressed fear that he will be revived by a future AI and tortured. This sounds like it's referring crudely to the memetic hazard known as Roko's Basilisk, which he has explicitly stated he doesn't believe in.)
- skgoa 9y ago
  You are right, I misremembered that.

skgoa 9y ago

> I hope you similarly mock those Christians or Hindus you come across. What makes this belief system so much more worthy of scorn, even if Yudkowsky actually were afraid of this When said person is trying to argue that his believe system is factual, I do very much believe that mockery is counted for. E.g. if a christian where to tell me that the big bang did not happen and instead the universe was created by a magical sky fairy who is his own father and who has a really unhealthy obsession with my sexuality. Said christian is very much free to hold and express this believe. But I'm also free to express my incredulity. > "Autodidact" is not the insult you seem to think it is. Did I say it's an insult? It simply means that the guy does not know what he is taling about. Which is kinda important when people try to claim he is worth listening to.