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How was this admitted? You're probably misusing the word collusion. There's no evidence of collusion yet, and there's barely evidence of the Russia hacks. Those

by jrs95 9y ago

How was this admitted? You're probably misusing the word collusion. There's no evidence of collusion yet, and there's barely evidence of the Russia hacks. Those intelligence agencies are relying on the investigation that CrowdStrike did. They were the only ones with access to the compromised servers. It's not like they all took a look themselves and came to the same conclusion. It's been consistently exaggerated and misrepresented by the media because they have a bias.

zimpenfish 9y ago
> How was this admitted? When Don Jr. tweeted out the emails specifically inviting him and other Trump campaign staff to a meeting in Trump Tower (fairly good chance Don Sr. was there too) with a Russian government connected lawyer to get dirt on the Clinton campaign. > compromised servers I think you're only talking about the DNC hacks? Where this is now a much wider scope and context due to their own admittances.
- jrs95 9y ago
  The Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has closer ties to Fusion GPS, the people who came up with that "dossier" with the whole golden shower blackmail conspiracy theory, than she does the Russian government. The worst you can reliably take away from that meeting is that they decided to take a meeting with someone who claimed to be a Russian government lawyer with information on Clinton. Plus, there's more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding with the Ukrainian government against Trump than there is evidence of Trump colluding with the Russian government. And yes, I was referring to the DNC hacks.
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    > they decided to take a meeting with someone who claimed to be a Russian government lawyer with information on Clinton Even if you want to claim that's all that happened, that is -still- collusion ("secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others") in the midst of a presidential campaign. > there's more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding Oh please.

by jrs95 9y ago

zimpenfish 9y ago

> How was this admitted? When Don Jr. tweeted out the emails specifically inviting him and other Trump campaign staff to a meeting in Trump Tower (fairly good chance Don Sr. was there too) with a Russian government connected lawyer to get dirt on the Clinton campaign. > compromised servers I think you're only talking about the DNC hacks? Where this is now a much wider scope and context due to their own admittances.

jrs95 9y ago
The Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, has closer ties to Fusion GPS, the people who came up with that "dossier" with the whole golden shower blackmail conspiracy theory, than she does the Russian government. The worst you can reliably take away from that meeting is that they decided to take a meeting with someone who claimed to be a Russian government lawyer with information on Clinton. Plus, there's more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding with the Ukrainian government against Trump than there is evidence of Trump colluding with the Russian government. And yes, I was referring to the DNC hacks.
- zimpenfish 9y ago
  > they decided to take a meeting with someone who claimed to be a Russian government lawyer with information on Clinton Even if you want to claim that's all that happened, that is -still- collusion ("secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others") in the midst of a presidential campaign. > there's more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding Oh please.