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...the integrated advertising platform, cloud software, the mandatory spying components...

by proactivesvcs 9y ago

BrockSamson 9y ago
This is my problem with Windows 10. It is no longer an operating system it is an advertising platform.
- kristianc 9y ago
  This isn't massively new either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop
  - gurkendoktor 9y ago
    Active Desktop was always optional, wasn't it? And was it really used for advertising by default? I thought it was mostly arbitrary browser windows that you could attach to the desktop.
    - kristianc 9y ago
      Active Desktop was on by default in Windows 98 and had channels from content partners that pushed to the desktop.
      - tjoff 9y ago
        No. This was something that your PC manufacturer might have done after an install but not by default when installing from scratch. Also, a completely different thing entirely.
- roryisok 9y ago
  It's both. Having ads on some apps doesn't make it not an OS anymore. I won't deny it's an advertising platform, just like android or ios or television or radio or the internet. And while it's equally annoying on all those media/systems, it doesn't lessen their or usefulness
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    Not sure iOS belongs on that list.
    - roryisok 9y ago
      I'm not a user, but I assume ads exist in some IOS apps?
  - psyc 9y ago
    There are ads in the Windows UI. I've been an iOS user for 9 years and can't recall seeing an ad in the OS. So it does not seem "just like" iOS, at all.
    - gurkendoktor 9y ago
      Music has started showing Apple Music ads, and Apple has also advertised its News app with a push notification on one of my devices. The fact that Apple Watch has its own pre-installed app feels like an ad to me as well. And don't get me started on App Store ads... https://twitter.com/nuthatch/status/879783700279418881 https://twitter.com/nuthatch/status/879783700279418881
    - roryisok 9y ago
      I've heard this but I've not yet seen these UI ads people keep talking about. Are they in pro?

...the integrated advertising platform, cloud software, the mandatory spying components...

BrockSamson 9y ago

This is my problem with Windows 10. It is no longer an operating system it is an advertising platform.

kristianc 9y ago
This isn't massively new either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop
- gurkendoktor 9y ago
  Active Desktop was always optional, wasn't it? And was it really used for advertising by default? I thought it was mostly arbitrary browser windows that you could attach to the desktop.
  - kristianc 9y ago
    Active Desktop was on by default in Windows 98 and had channels from content partners that pushed to the desktop.
    - tjoff 9y ago
      No. This was something that your PC manufacturer might have done after an install but not by default when installing from scratch. Also, a completely different thing entirely.
roryisok 9y ago
It's both. Having ads on some apps doesn't make it not an OS anymore. I won't deny it's an advertising platform, just like android or ios or television or radio or the internet. And while it's equally annoying on all those media/systems, it doesn't lessen their or usefulness
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
  Not sure iOS belongs on that list.
  - roryisok 9y ago
    I'm not a user, but I assume ads exist in some IOS apps?
- psyc 9y ago
  There are ads in the Windows UI. I've been an iOS user for 9 years and can't recall seeing an ad in the OS. So it does not seem "just like" iOS, at all.
  - gurkendoktor 9y ago
    Music has started showing Apple Music ads, and Apple has also advertised its News app with a push notification on one of my devices. The fact that Apple Watch has its own pre-installed app feels like an ad to me as well. And don't get me started on App Store ads... https://twitter.com/nuthatch/status/879783700279418881 https://twitter.com/nuthatch/status/879783700279418881
  - roryisok 9y ago
    I've heard this but I've not yet seen these UI ads people keep talking about. Are they in pro?